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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-08 09:06 [#01023273]
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My imagination has always as far as I remember, imagined things strictly visually. But yesterday I was about to go to sleep and for the first time, I was imagining sound/ever mutating super fucked up music! It was freaking awesome and probably the best music I've ever "heard"...
I don't mean interpreting visual things as sound, like I've done before. That method sucks compared to this.. it was actual sound, so to speak, interpreted in exactly the same way as real sound. And it just came in to my imagination naturally without any effort at all. It was all writhing with a multitude of effects and mutations which would be impossible to replicate without some sort of , uh, imagiination to sound converter.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-01-08 09:10 [#01023277]
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stay off the drugs.
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-08 09:11 [#01023278]
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That sounds great! I want some!!!
What sort of state were you in before this happened? normal or abnormally tired due to a late night before?
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-01-08 09:15 [#01023284]
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i had a dream where smells were the most vivid part. kinda wierd dreaming about smell.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-08 09:17 [#01023289]
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I was just sort of care free and normal. I wasn't tired. God damn, my reckolection of this is starting to piss me off. I can't remember if it was yesterday or a few days ago... I'm almost positive I was awake... hell, maybe i just dreamed that I did this? WTF... no, I'm pretty sure it happened.. damn memory.
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-08 09:18 [#01023293]
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are you dreaming now?
I'm I in it?
I should be at work!!! Fuck!!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-08 09:18 [#01023294]
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are you serious? Was it drug related or something?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-01-08 09:20 [#01023296]
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no, if this is the more serious side of wmw im talking to, i hear sounds sometimes too
especially when im almost asleep.. its mostly tunes i played that day, or anything stuck in my mind. Its really clear and there, but when i try to focus too hard on it its gone
the part when you're almost asleep is the best thing :)
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-08 09:34 [#01023307]
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Yeah, I am being serious :)
When you interpret visuals as sound, there's an immediate fallacy in that you see stuff, say move from left to right... well the only way to really interpret that with sound is with panning (or you can interpret left being low pitch and right being high pitch or something, but then it's just as unimaginative as a graph).
I remember the sound had melody, but it wasn't a strict seperation of melody and percussion or something, it was just all unified sound probably the closest thing to it in structure was otto von schirach... but it kept changing to new patterns and sounds, all effortlessly too.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-08 09:35 [#01023310]
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It was really rapid and complex. I can't remember if it had a unified tempo like normal music, but I'm pretty sure it pretty much did.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-08 09:37 [#01023311]
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Yeah, I am being serious :)
REALITY FAILURE
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-01-08 10:00 [#01023348]
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nah, no drugs involved. just a vivid dream.
it happend last week i think.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-08 10:03 [#01023354]
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possitively fascinating!
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-01-08 10:14 [#01023359]
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ive been doing that since i was a lad
people used to think i was mildy autistic cause id make audible noises to punctuate what was in my head
true story.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-01-08 10:15 [#01023360]
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that was for you to say bill :) welcome back!
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-01-08 10:22 [#01023371]
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but as for making music, that comes from the interface .. instantaneous music fades
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-08 10:42 [#01023389]
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Yes, just as I'm falling asleep I catch snatches of converastions, bits of melody and just weird synth type sounds. The best way I can describe it is a radio cycling through international stations every few seconds with the volume down very low.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-01-08 11:23 [#01023493]
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interesting, as i fall asleep i also drift through one or more conversations between people i don't know, in english and usually completely banal. eg,
"yeah, we went yesterday." "it's nice, isn't it?" "mmm hmmm....." etc.
usually no music though.
i do hold the unconventional view that what we experience as humans is not reality at all, more like a coherent, stable dream derived from a series of agreements about organization, shared perception, fundamental assumptions and so on.
i think what wmw experienced was reality leaking into his experience as a self-transforming autocreation soundform. priceless.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-01-08 12:21 [#01023574]
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Mmm, closest i've had to this is on salvia... looking at certain objects in the dark gave them their own little tune in my mind... very primitive monophonic doodles, almost like stylophone melodies.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-01-08 12:55 [#01023595]
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that sounds mindbending
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-01-08 13:05 [#01023603]
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Hehe, it was. It was kinda scary though in places though, the lightshade's tune was really dark and dirge-like. Gave me the willies.
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uviol
from United States on 2004-01-08 13:42 [#01023686]
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Yes, there have been a couple of instances when I have been lying down, somewhat sleepy, and I hear crisp, clear, wonderful IDMish music just flowing through my head .. completely impossible to recreate, and completely involuntary. It's rare though. This has also happened with more pop-ish, melodic type music.. I'll just think about it and a wonderful, catchy pop song comes to mind immediately.
Of course there were separate times when I have had a dream of a song and was able to recreate some of it on the computer, or at least use it as the basis of a new track. Usually it doesn't turn out that well, and never as good as in the original dream.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-08 14:57 [#01023842]
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w M w this has happened to me also, almost exactly the same. I was falling asleep and this music started to play in my brain. It was like a dream, but only the sound part was active in the dream; the rest of my brain was awake as normal. The music was the best shit I have ever heard, and yeah, I could actually hear it as though it was being poured down my ear holes.
I have always wished for a way to record your brain, normally for recording dreams, but to record these songs would be incredible. It's cool to see that a few other people have had this.
I guess an offshoot of this is when I sometimes hear random noises when I am falling asleep.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-01-08 15:23 [#01023872]
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I ALWAYS hear awesome tracks in my dreams, then I wake up excited but I always forget the tune after ten minutes of being awake. In one dream, I heard a Pink Floyd song called ''Another Cog'' or something, it was a weird blend of the WYWH/Wall eras and it kicked the shit out of anything Waters and Gilmore ever composed... albeit a bit derivative, even in the title.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-01-08 15:32 [#01023894]
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when I hear things in dreams I usually just remember the feeling I had when hearing it, never the track, when I wake up.
I can imagine sounds and add effects to them in my head, aswell as making up melodies or things.
But of course I cannot come up with brand new "sounds" (sounds I've never heard before outside my head).
If one is going to make a sound one has to start by selecting some frequencies (of course these can be changed later).
Anyway I know too little about that, but when I'm experienced in making my own (synth)sounds from scratch I think I will be able to make them up in my head.
the only way I can make "new sounds" is to mix (already known/previously heard) sounds together.
Since playing with my Yamaha SY77, if I play a melody on any instrument/synthsound (that has distinguishable notes) I can change instrument/synthsound in my head and listen to it with another instrument/synthsound.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-08 15:34 [#01023899]
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I can't freakin remember if I was dreaming or awake when this happened... at the time that didn't matter at all and I sort of reacted as if it was somewhat normal... it never happened before but I wasn't really like "whoa, this is awesome" until a day or so afterwards. Now I at least know the type of music I'd definately like to create. But doing that would be very very hard, even...
well, I definately used to do this with mental visualization when drawing... the catch is that you cannot just suddenly convert what is in your imagination to paper that quickly.... so the "technique" I used was to just imagine a little at a time, and then fuse that little bit to the drawing that was already there (which was made up of many other little imagined bits)...
So anyway, if I could somehow control imagining sound... then I could do the same, just a little bit at a time, augmenting what's already build untill it's completed. (those drawings at my site I used that imagination technique on www.iuma.com/wmw at the bottom)
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