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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-01-07 07:10 [#01021628]
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My god! This is the worst music ever! Is all his/their stuff like this? What is Skam thinking? Crap!
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2004-01-07 07:26 [#01021635]
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you are wrong, and that's not IMO, it's fact. wevie stonder wails balls off, and this e.p. is great. if you dont like it i dont recommend checking out drawing on other people's heads either, because it kicks the crap out of shit
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-01-07 08:08 [#01021680]
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Maybe I am. Maybe it's supposed to be "funny"
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-01-07 08:32 [#01021693]
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don't mock wevie stonder. wevie stonder is awesome.
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-07 08:43 [#01021697]
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dont worry mortsto-x, we cant save everyone. theres always going to be those renegades that actually want to pollute their ears with incohesive "haha" gutter trash-my first sony artists.
I have passed the point in my life where i need a show with my music. or shock in the music. it was cool when all you wanted was to shock your parents or the system, so you put on a marilyn manson record. now, i just want good music. great music.
i dont want to laugh or chuckle when i put on a new record i just spent my dough on. thats just me, and i know everyones pickle gets tickled by different shit. but come on people! this aint quality shit! thats like saying expert knob twiddlers was a "classic".
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-01-07 08:49 [#01021700]
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not all music has to sound like autechre you know.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-01-07 08:51 [#01021701]
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A quick XLT-search tells me that there has been some arguing about V.Stonder earlier. I agree with intruder about humor in music.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-01-07 08:53 [#01021704]
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parts of draft 7.30 were amusing i thought......
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-01-07 08:57 [#01021709]
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well... but expert knob twiddlers IS a classic!
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-07 08:57 [#01021710]
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What makes you think i even like AE? if you must know i cant fucking stand anything after chiastic slide.
Good music is good music. its unfortuante that two of the "big" guns in the music biz, ie rephlex and skam, have completely forgot about that fact and are steadily trying to move "music" into a totally unlistenable obscure direction.
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-07 09:01 [#01021713]
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Classic only in the sense that its old!
you guys dont get me started on autechre now!
Just out of curiousity, and this isnt trying to be any sort of jab, but fuckwagon/neetta do you guys listen to Merzbow? in all honesty? maybe not regularly, but on occasion. and/or own albums by merzbow.
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-01-07 09:03 [#01021715]
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i likes one release by merzbow, the one called balance, with ladybird, because of the idea was cool
the autechre thing was not like ment to be taken too seiously ;)
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hobbes
from age on 2004-01-07 09:03 [#01021716]
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do you like merzbow intruder?
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2004-01-07 09:05 [#01021719]
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wevie stonder isn't novelty disposable funny like a jerky boys cd, and it's not shock value art either. it's good, it's an effective collage of sound with sometimes funny samples... the final product is interesting and it has a voice. saying they're disposable haha funny is like saying beck is disposable haha funny. he's got zAnY lyrics.
excuse me, i have to go to pull my pants down and fart on my mom while you stroke your beard listening to some quality sterile shit
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2004-01-07 09:06 [#01021720]
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and no i dont listen to merzbow i dont even see how you could compare merzbow to wevie stonder, if that's what you're doing
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hobbes
from age on 2004-01-07 09:10 [#01021722]
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the chimes of march is lovely..... i saw them live and it was entertaining to say the least, a bit shambolic but "fun".
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hobbes
from age on 2004-01-07 09:13 [#01021728]
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people want all sorts of emotions from music and thats it really.
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-07 09:14 [#01021729]
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you do that fuckwagon. enjoy listening to some talentless fat ass that couldnt figure out any angle to make a buck, so he threw together an entourage, and started making jarbled ear piercing electronic music that has no rhythm or direction. and he just so happened to get lucky when the idiots at skam gave him a deal.
I didnt get mad at the ae comment! :)
Merzbow? i have a truely unbridled hate for merzbow. this fucking guys records the fucking sound that his tv makes on channel 123 add even more noise and sells records to peole that cant be bothered with "sterile music". i bought one of his cds once. venerology i think it was. why? so i could break it in front of the reocrd store owner, because i was so pissed he bought one to sell in his store(trade in).
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-07 09:20 [#01021735]
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you can compare the two because they both are different simply to be different. i put AE in the same category. speedy J (he's lost his marbles completly).
I still have a love hate relationship with Ventian Snares because i think that he's got to the point where he can make money of of what ever he does, cause its the venetian snares sound. i think the only shit he really tries to make decent are his hymen releases.
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2004-01-07 09:21 [#01021737]
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what have you heard of wevie stonder that is rhythmless intruder?
also, i bet the store owner was shocked as hell when you broke that cd in front of him! you go girl!
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hobbes
from age on 2004-01-07 09:25 [#01021744]
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come on know chicagoeans!! (what are people from chicago called?)
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-07 09:28 [#01021747]
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Because i have known the guy for so long. he barely makes any money to actually take home, and he's only there because of his love for music. i was there with one of my buddies, i'm flipping through some records when my friend calls me and says Holy shit! he sells merzbow now? it was like 6 bucks. and i told him i started seeing shit like this again, id stop going. its dough he can drop on stuff people that shop there actually like.
drawing on other peoples heads and boomkat samples of his new one. also i saw a live show of his. im really not trying to be hardcore about this. i know everyone likes what they like. i just have have a hard time understanding sometimes.
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2004-01-07 09:29 [#01021748]
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bad mother fuckers
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-07 09:32 [#01021752]
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I like this. heated discussion, and no one has called each other poopey head. yet...
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hobbes
from age on 2004-01-07 09:32 [#01021753]
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is wevie stonder really just one guy? i always though of wevie stonder as a band...
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2004-01-07 09:36 [#01021757]
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intruder: so what music do you like?
morsto: it's Wevie Stonder
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-07 11:12 [#01021908]
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wevie stonder is three people. not one.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-01-07 11:13 [#01021909]
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i like his name
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-07 11:29 [#01021924]
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you are boringly militant.
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-07 12:20 [#01022008]
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fucking shmuck. why dont you take your comment to the oxy moron thread, cause thats what it is.
What kind of music do i like? well, the same you do. just not wevie stonder. or merzbow. or nasty noisey stuff in general. here, let me put it to you this way. i hated go plastic by squarepusher. with the exception of red hot car. that type of stuff does nothing for me. the wild spatic, no rythm having stuff that sounds like a laptop going bonkers i dont like. its got to still sound like music for me to get into it.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-01-07 12:31 [#01022032]
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wevie stonder isn't nasty noisy stuff though is it? and i have no idea how you can compare merzbow and go plastic.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-01-07 12:38 [#01022043]
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that's a shame
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2004-01-07 12:44 [#01022055]
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intrduder, you big poopy head dooshbag, do you have any idea what rhythm is??
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-07 12:44 [#01022056]
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because i can. both annoy the shit out of me. its not music to me. so i put them in the same category. "crap". sorry if it offends some of you but thats how i feel. no wevie stonder is not noise, but is spastic shit all over the place with no rythm.
this is really staring to get annoying now. i give up.
i LOVE WEVIE STONDER. its the bestest music there is! merzbow and the fat guy should a child. and the could call it merzonder! and it could make craptasic music for everyone!
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-07 12:46 [#01022060]
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yeah. and its not called wevie stonder.
poopey ass.
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-07 12:47 [#01022065]
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oops. i meant they should HAVE a child.
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neetta
from Finland on 2004-01-08 03:57 [#01022973]
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man, i thought _i_ don't have a grasp on reality :oo
i bet you also prefer oasis to blur.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-08 04:11 [#01022983]
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what do you mean "worst music ever"??
it's not on top of my charts either, but how can you call it worst ever?
have you ever heard of radiohead maybe...now that is definitely worst ever :)
there are couple of tunes that are quite alright on kenyan harry:
-cheese rider -the rooney man
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optimus prime
on 2004-01-08 04:56 [#01023002]
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*slaps intruder*
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-01-08 05:16 [#01023016]
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Ok. Not the worst EVER, but sometimes you hear something you hope should be good, and you get very disappointed. An example is W. Stonder wich is neither good art or good comedy. Another example is when I listened to the BBC/Rephlex/One World-show, with the killer track by PP Roy, and I bought his first album. It was the same thing. "Funny music" that sucked. When I hear Wevie Stonder, I def her something I haven't heard before, but It's not funny and the melodies/beats are not even interesting.
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