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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-05 06:12 [#01018574]
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I can't get enough of oldschool idm,... 1990-1994 stuff where they saturate the layer after layer of melody from raw sounding synth waves,.. LFO, Black Dog, Early Afx/Ae, alder and elius (they aren't old, but they have the oldschool sound imo) I just can't get enough, music from the era where the melody was more important than the glitch, and raw aesthetic was the only way to go,
I want more of this I need more of this
show me the way......
Matt. Refund.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2004-01-05 06:14 [#01018576]
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is Tango n Vectif considered old school?
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-05 06:16 [#01018577]
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more from the school of drill and bass methinks =)
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-01-05 06:18 [#01018578]
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Old school is good, Nu school is better. All the big Warp Artists have better works the second half of their careeer, compared to the first half IMO
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Bob Mcbob
on 2004-01-05 06:19 [#01018579]
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i concur
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2004-01-05 06:20 [#01018580]
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Beaumont and hannant, start with the called utuba it is fucking amazing
Speedy j, B12 in fact all early warp stuff is like that YUMMY!
Well all apart from the bleep.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-05 06:20 [#01018581]
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I've been diggin the cheese, rawness, and honesty of earlier idm lately, purely emotional stuff,....
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-05 06:21 [#01018582]
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every other artificial intelligence compilation spin off release I've heard has been amazing,.. I'll give them a try..
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-05 06:25 [#01018583]
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you wanna check my files on slsk
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-05 09:25 [#01018832]
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*discovered mp3's I didn't know I had*
mmmmmm speedy j is nice
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dtnl
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-05 09:33 [#01018838]
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go and buy the Stasis compilation that peacefrog have just reissued. it's ace. look out for Redcell, Elixir, Beaumont Hannant, Wladimir M and anything on eevolute, B12, GPR or ART.
this stuff does not get enough props imho.
and if you want new stuff that's made in the spirit of the old days, you could do worse than pick up Metamatics From Death to Passwords album.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-05 09:40 [#01018845]
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sweet, It's nice to know that some people are still doing the old sound, even if it does make them sound a bit amateurish, (which is probably why people are afraid to do the sound anymore)
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2004-01-05 09:41 [#01018847]
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man..... IDM for me is ALL about the old skool! I love the older sounds, not the newer ones! they sound so overdone and polished, I love the old sounds!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-01-05 09:45 [#01018849]
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Get old R&S (record label) compilations like In Order To Dance- loads of great old techno/idm on them. I thought Sheath sounded pretty old skool for a new release.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-05 09:54 [#01018862]
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nice ot know,.. I'm downloading sheath now,..
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-01-05 11:24 [#01018990]
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i feel that IDM gets better with time.
thats one of the greatest aspects of such a genre, i don't find that it gets old quick... constant change and innovation.
variety - the spice of life right?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-01-05 11:41 [#01019005]
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the spice must flow
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-01-05 13:08 [#01019107]
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richie hawtin as Fuse. kick ass album. B12 electro soma/time tourist. nightmares on wax, LFO, ahh just look up the entire early warp catalogue. old skam too. old plus 8.
Plus 8 made a comp 2cd set, called plus 8 classics. it is the fucking bomb ass!
alder and elius kick ass. i think its awesome they can go from making kick ass idm to bionic vagina. smack it up old school chicago booty house!
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-05 13:14 [#01019118]
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Meat Beat Manifesto - Mindstream (orbital / Aphex mixes)
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-05 17:05 [#01019422]
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bionic vagina is the bomb! I love the track "in effect" from that ep,....
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-17 04:35 [#01037595]
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bought 'lfo - sheath' yesterday, it really does sound oldschool, nice chunky raw synth style!
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-01-17 19:32 [#01038673]
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Yes, I like to see some old-school appreciation. More props need to be given to artists like The Black Dog and B12, if it wasn't for them who knows what we would be listening to today.
As for checking out older relases, your best bet is to go to www.discogs.com type in an old artist like The Black Dog, B12, F.U.S.E, etc. etc. and check what labels released their early material like GPR, R&S, and even ART. They'll show you all the relases that they have by those labels, so it'll definitely give you some help.
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uviol
from United States on 2004-01-17 21:01 [#01038712]
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Hmmmm I definitely like new IDM better, for the most part. Incunabula is pleasant, for example, but it bores me to tears. I understand the sentiment, and I like alot of it, but somehow it just all seems transitional. I like Artificial Intelligence 2 (don't have 1).. especially Beaumont Hannant, B12 .. lots of the aforementioned stuff. It just seems so unfinished though in comparison to stuff being made now.
On that note, i am still looking for a copy of Electro Soma .. grrrr
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nacmat
on 2004-01-18 02:58 [#01038938]
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bytes incnabula, amber saw 85-92, surfin, on trainer stuff green and brown orbital albums tango n vectif (for me totally in this category)
thats what I have from that era but I guess I am missing hundreds like lfo fsol orb
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-18 04:23 [#01038958]
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I got a feeling you might like "orb - adventures through the ultraworld"
it's a double disc, but you can usually find it pretty easily for the price of a one cd release, it's a little more ambient htan his later stuff,
very nice :)
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2004-01-18 04:31 [#01038962]
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Ahh, finally! Oldschool IDM has been taken out into the spotlight from backstage...
Listening to UI mix right now, some classic oldschool acid sounds on this one... ;)
Yeah, all the early Black Dog stuff etc. is good stuff imo.
On with the show!
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-18 04:36 [#01038963]
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I also found some seefeel I downloaded to be very very VERY nice, it sounds like a cd worth of "stuff lkike that aphex remix on 26 mixes" so yeah more of that
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-18 04:37 [#01038964]
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"stuff lkike that aphex remix on 26 mixes"
ja, I speak very good england today
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-01-18 04:59 [#01038973]
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check out colourform by the higher intelligence agency: vintage idm all the way!
stuff that makes you think that bola is such a ripoff
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-01-18 05:03 [#01038974]
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will do,
they had a track on artificial intelligence '1' didn't they?
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-01-18 05:12 [#01038980]
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they had a track on ai2: selenite i think this track gives quite a good representation of what hia is all about, but its not their most memorable track.
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RedSky
from Chicago (United States) on 2004-04-30 12:01 [#01168355]
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I'm quite old school when it comes to IDM. Back when it was called "Intelligent Techno" and stuff.
Anything off of old Artificial Intelligence or Trance Europe Express compilations is just fine by me.
Vapourspace, Kenny Larkin, Drexciya, Elecktroids... Yummy.
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nacmat
on 2004-04-30 12:33 [#01168384]
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now I know lfo and fsol
both great
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-04-30 14:31 [#01168507]
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I am firmly in favour of the old-skool. As much as I like recent work by Autechre and new glitch pop stars, it's all overshadowed by the original pioneers. I find music now takes baby steps forward, compared to the giant leaps of Black Dog, B12, AFX, (very early)Mu-Ziq, Beaumant Hannant, Drexciya, early Rephlex releases. Now it's all too knowing, music is either overtly referential, an academic exercise in "complexity" or just downright shit like VSnares. The past can't be repeated, it'll never sound the same. It's all over, all new "IDM" is just pissing in the wind, time to go home. Will the last one to leave turn off the strobe.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-04-30 16:11 [#01168641]
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lets make an Oldschool IDM list:
Amber i care because you do Tango N' Vectif Incunabula Twoism Cylobian Sunset goon Bytes saw1 saw2
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-04-30 16:17 [#01168657]
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beaumont hannant owns the armchair techno years imo...
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-04-30 17:14 [#01168787]
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good to see this thread back at the top
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-04-30 18:42 [#01168900]
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I agree completely, except for "liking the recent work of autechre and glitch popstars" part.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-30 18:46 [#01168902]
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im not too fond on oldschool...
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-04-30 18:48 [#01168903]
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oldschool schmoldschmool
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2004-04-30 18:49 [#01168904]
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any oldskool trax in particular to get us interested?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-30 18:50 [#01168905]
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usura - open your mind
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korben dallas
from nz on 2004-04-30 18:53 [#01168906]
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old sckool is fantastic imo - incunabula is a rather special album in that regard. i'm currently absorbed into the old school electro vibe - pretty "stock standard" list, but brilliant nonetheless: drexciya / elecktroids, dopplereffekt, model 500 etc. ... did i mention dopplereffekt ?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-04-30 18:56 [#01168909]
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I forgot about that track. I add to it Acen's "Trip to the Moon" and Spiral Tribe's "Rush your fucking bollocks off".
Classic, classic old school i would recommend, at the risk of repeating others more learned than I, would be any early AFX (AB 3, SAW 85-92, Polygon Window), Tango n Vectif - Mu Ziq, Incunabula - Autechre, Bytes - Black Dog, Basic Data Manipulation (Tastes and Textures, Volume 2) - Beaumont Hannant, Electro(Soma) - B12
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-04-30 18:59 [#01168910]
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I used to really like those "Ambient Dub" compilations on Beyond records, "Ketamine Entity" Higher Intelligence Agency, Banco de Gaia, Mimoid...
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korben dallas
from nz on 2004-04-30 19:07 [#01168916]
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dave clarke's electro "X mix" has a wicked tracklist and retains the old school flavour ...
exaph re: old school idm - the artificial intelligence releases off Warp are not a bad place to start - or the 2 A.I. compilations: vol 1 and vol 2
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nacmat
on 2004-04-30 19:07 [#01168917]
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frequencies lifeforms soup
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-04-30 20:43 [#01168976]
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Check out all of FSOL's early material on Jumpin and Pumpin. They released a compilation in 1992 I think called Earthbeat. It's a compilation of all their aliases. Definitely check it out. It shows just how varied FSOL was and still is.
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-30 20:48 [#01168979]
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there is good & bad in both oldskool & newskool. personally in any dance genre I listen to, the oldskool stuff is much more to my taste, altho I think for many of the old headz nostalgia has a large part to play in this.
I agree with dog belch on the "new IDM" thing, the main difference being newskool music is produced mainly using computers.
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-30 21:07 [#01168988]
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thats right, I own the compilation you speak of but I wouldn't say it's a great album to recomend unless like me your a fsol head, there are a couple of really great tracks on that compilation but all in all it's not great, there's better oldskool techno out there.
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