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This is Michael Moore on Saddams Capture...pretty interesting if u ask old Archie ;) Sunday December 14, 2003 We Finally Got Our Frankenstein... and He Was In a Spider Hole! -- by Michael Moore Thank God Saddam is finally back in American hands! He must have really missed us. Man, he sure looked bad! But, at least he got a free dental exam today. That's something most Americans can't get. America used to like Saddam. We LOVED Saddam. We funded him. We armed him. We helped him gas Iranian troops. But then he screwed up. He invaded the dictatorship of Kuwait and, in doing so, did the worst thing imaginable -- he threatened an even BETTER friend of ours: the dictatorship of Saudi Arabia, and its vast oil reserves. The Bushes and the Saudi royal family were and are close business partners, and Saddam, back in 1990, committed a royal blunder by getting a little too close to their wealthy holdings. Things went downhill for Saddam from there. But it wasn't always that way. Saddam was our good friend and ally. We supported his regime. It wasn't the first time we had helped a murderer. We liked playing Dr. Frankenstein. We created a lot of monsters -- the Shah of Iran, Somoza of Nicaragua, Pinochet of Chile -- and then we expressed ignorance or shock when they ran amok and massacred people. We liked Saddam because he was willing to fight the Ayatollah. So we made sure that he got billions of dollars to purchase weapons. Weapons of mass destruction him! |
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We allowed and encouraged American corporations to do business with Saddam in the 1980s. That's how he got chemical and biological agents so he could use them in chemical and biological weapons. Here's the list of some of the stuff we sent him (according to a 1994 U.S. Senate report): * Bacillus Anthracis, cause of anthrax. * Clostridium Botulinum, a source of botulinum toxin. * Histoplasma Capsulatam, cause of a disease attacking lungs, brain, spinal cord, and heart. * Brucella Melitensis, a bacteria that can damage major organs. * Clostridium Perfringens, a highly toxic bacteria causing systemic illness. * Clostridium tetani, a highly toxigenic substance. And here are some of the American corporations who helped to prop Saddam up by doing business with him: AT&T, Bechtel, Caterpillar, Dow Chemical, Dupont, Kodak, Hewlett-Packard, and IBM (for a full list of companies and descriptions of how they helped Saddam, click here). We were so cozy with dear old Saddam that we decided to feed him satellite images so he could locate where the Iranian troops were. We pretty much knew how he would use the information, and sure enough, as soon as we sent him the spy photos, he gassed those troops. And we kept quiet. Because he was our friend, and the Iranians were the "enemy." A year after he first gassed the Iranians, we reestablished full diplomatic relations with him! Later he gassed his own people, the Kurds. You would think that would force us to disassociate ourselves from him. Congress tried to impose economic sanctions on Saddam, but the Reagan White House quickly rejected that idea -- they wouldn't let anything derail their good buddy Saddam. We had a virtual love fest with this Frankenstein whom we (in part) created. And, just like the mythical Frankenstein, Saddam eventually spun out of control. He would no longer do what he was told by his master. Saddam had to be caught. And now that he has been brought back from the wilderness, perhaps he |
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yeah, we also put guns in osama's hands and taught him, too. in reality, the war aside, AMERICA is the terrorist!!!!!!!!!! |
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will have something to say about his creators. Maybe we can learn something... interesting. Maybe Don Rumsfeld could smile and shake Saddam's hand again. Just like he did when he went to see him in 1983 (click here to see the photo). Maybe we never would have been in the situation we're in if Rumsfeld, Bush, Sr., and company hadn't been so excited back in the 80s about their friendly monster in the desert. Meanwhile, anybody know where the guy is who killed 3,000 people on 9/11? Our other Frankenstein?? Maybe he's in a mouse hole. So many of our little monsters, so little time before the next election. Stay strong, Democratic candidates. Quit sounding like a bunch of wusses. These bastards sent us to war on a lie, the killing will not stop, the Arab world hates us with a passion, and we will pay for this out of our pockets for years to come. Nothing that happened today (or in the past 9 months) has made us ONE BIT safer in our post-9/11 world. Saddam was never a threat to our national security. Only our desire to play Dr. Frankenstein dooms us all. Yours, Michael Moore Big ups to Michael Moore He's 100% on point. |
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i love my country, but i despise the men who run it. it's kinda like the thing going on with disney right now: roy disney trying to regain the integrity and control of his kin's business form the hands of the greedy. disney isnt evil, the men who run it are. america isnt evil, the men who run it are. |
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yeah, i hear micheal moore get alot of crap, and maybe i dotn ahree with ALL his views 100% but youre right, here, hes DEFINITELY on top of it. |
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america isnt evil, the men who run it are true, true |
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archie can you give me the link to that so i can print it w/ better formatting xlt screws up, and i hate reading long texts from a screen |
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good man, arch! thanks for posting this :) |
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Am I the only one that thinks bin Laden WONT be caught before the election? I mean, honestly, this is Saddam, the person that many people realise was not a major threat anyway, unless his desire for power spread. Honestly, Bush needs more than this to get re-elected...if Bush doesnt come up with bin Laden and WMD he is doomed...why? Because I am quite sure Dems will use that lack of success to their benefit and exploit the fuck out of it...its all politics...and it sure works... fuck!! |
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i dont think bin laden will be caught period. and me thinks theres a possibility saddam is going to "jail" somewheres cozy. |
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heres another interesting one on this topic http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/23/news-crogan.php |
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Read "Stupid White Men...". Great read. Plan on getting to "Dude, where's my country" as soon as I have time to read it. |
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Michael Moore can't be taken as totally reliable source. As with most US/Western media sources he is heavily biased and emotional when it comes to his reporting/writing. |
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id say hes a TON more reliable than the mainstream media. |
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No, I'd say he presents some facts that the media choose to ignore. But just because he does that doesn't make him any more reliable. He is on this whole "US Administration sucks" deal at the moment, and he never analyses why some of the decisions in the past have been taken, he just reels off facts to further his outspoken controversial image. Don't get me wrong, I think the world needs the Michael Moore types. It's just you have to read as many sources as you can and make your own mind up. |
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well, ive always been one of those who feels that there are few who risk their careers and lives to stand up and speak out for whats right and true. therefore, i feel i would put more faith in his word than the multitude of, what all franken calls the "lies and the lying liars that tell them". |
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al franken, not all franken. sheesh. |
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Risk his career? Controversy is his career...it is how he has made his millions. He is as much as part of corporate machinary as the companies he chooses to have a go at. Fuck man, you give me a couple of million and I'll have a pop at anyone you want me to. |
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i guess i just dont see how getting death threats and being booed at the oscars is NOT putting yourself at risk. |
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Footballers get death threats and get booed at football matches. It's no different. Even the Bush adminitration see the benefit of Moore, the US media manipulate it to look as though Moore is an unpatriotic lying rebel, and that can help boost sympathy for the President. It all politics :D |
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mm yes, but I guess he is as surprised as I am that he got this rich from speaking his mind.. in other words, he didn't start to do this to become rich. only after "bowling for columbine" he became filthy stinkin' rich - he was already doing the exact same thing for a LONG time before that. |
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yeah, i don`t think hos sole aim to have a go at the US` corrupt rightw-ng administration originates from a desire for money. More like he has a conscience and can see what is going on. read his latest book. |
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i was eating spaghetti bolagnese as i typed that |
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I don't like the fact that Michael Moore was a bit of a fibber/manipulator on a few things in Bowling For Columbine. |
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take it you read that "reliable" document on the Internet then |
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Not only that reliable document but Moore's rebukal of it, which ignored all the main points. (Well, I read the gist of it, sort of) Plus, wasn't the DVD edited because certain things were implied which were just downright lies. I'll look it up. |
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sure. try and convince me that guns aren`t bad. |
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I'm not trying to. I'm just saying he's putting the same evil spin on crap as all the crap politicians like to do. Here's 2 links. http://www.spinsanity.org/post.html?2002_11_24_archive.html #85712328 http://www.spinsanity.org/post.html?2003_08_31_archive.html #10624779059990811 |
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those aren't links, oh god no! those are just URLs!! |
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now THAT'S a link. |
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roeri-ei is right. unfortunately. michal moore is not doing a favour to those fighting american totaliarism |
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> Read "Stupid White Men...". Great read. interesting but the chapters about men disappearing because they're useless is a bit too much. ridiculous. the first chapter is probly the most interesting. same with the chapter about afro-americans. interesting read. |
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read the link i just posted. |
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The link was CRAP!!!! "Take, for example, this business of so-called "anti-gay violence." This bill will be used to go after only those who commit crimes against people because they are homosexuals. But this is not the most pernicious form of "anti-gay violence." Not by a long shot. The most violent - indeed fatal 100 percent of the time - form of "anti-gay violence" has been committed not by so-called "homophobes" who bash homosexuals - but by male homosexuals and bisexuals against other male bisexuals and homosexuals. To date, tens of thousands of male bisexual and homosexual men are dead in our country because of AIDS, because they engaged in high-risk homosexual sex. Is this not "anti-gay violence" which numbers its victims far beyond anything any "homophobes" have done?" BULL SHIT!!!! come on!!! Michael Moore is on point, thats it, face the facts. The truth is scary but u have to face it. |
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