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Depending on my mood 2 1 3 4 or 1 2 3 4 |
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1 2 3 4 although the new 3 does make it harder.. |
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i finally got around to watching the extended version of Alien3. In some ways i liked it a lot more. I appreciated the expansion of the characters and the greater depth of their interactions among eachother. makes them less like cattle and more like people. but there were some changes and additions i thought kinda sucked. catching the alien half way through i think was better left out of the film. especially since it escapes in such a stupid way. and i think the dog birthing the alien was a little more dramatic and more realistic than the dead ox version. i don't think it changes my opinon of it in relation to the others though.. still 1 2 3 4 for me. i deffinately like the directors cut of 1 much better. |
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NO ! the way it gets released is the best thing about this version! |
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this is going to be exciting. i love watching the director's cuts of movies i've never seen. you're impression of the movie is exactly what the filmmaker wanted. plus i've felt bad for being the only person to never see any aliens movies. |
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I have the older box set of all 4 films on DVD, its not as nice content wise, although it has all the extended versions, but the outside actual box is nicer on mine |
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There's stuff on that legacy boxset that's not on the new one so it's worth having. Being a sad git I have both :) |
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that makes two sad gits then.. |
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Still no word about Eraser head :( |
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hmm. well, i like the idea of them capturing the alien, with that rapist guy sacrificing himself as bait. But i thought it was a little silly to let Golick go when he is a murder suspect. and have him release the alien so easily. If they could have had the alien escape some other way, i thought it would have been better. |
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giginger: well im not gonna go pay the near 90 bucks so I can have both! but thats still cool I guess,,,, the dvd craze is here to stay. |
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In Japan, this just got released, check out the packaging. |
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Damn I want one!!! |
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oooh i just got this for my birthday (it was the first) and i havent watched more than 30 min into alines spec. ed. so far, but the whole thing just blows me away. 9 fucking dvds for 4 movies! gaaaah! of course i doubt ill be watching resurrection anytime soon, that movie was a turd and a half. but all the others fucking rule, especially alines. |
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yeh A4 blows. except for that sweet ass underwater sequence. did you get the cool box!! the alien head!!! |
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how different are the directors cuts? dont hold back - i dont mind spoilers - as its going to be quite some time before i get round to buying this box set. |
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ok, SPOILERS SPOILERS alien 1 directors cut is really good, i think it makes it much better than the original. little creepier i think. Aliens directors cut adds some neat stuff the girl, newt's family actually exploring that ship. and a few more meats type scenes. I don't think it's all that much better, but definitely cool for fans. more shooting!. Alien3 extended is still not an official Directors cut. but the added stuff really fleshes out the characters better, and goes into a little greater detail about their histories. they also added a scene where the actually catch the alien once but it gets away. I personally thought that new scene blows but there is some other good stuff added which makes it a better cut over-all (my opinion) The fourth is also not really a directors cut as much as just an alternate cut. The director says the theartrical version was just how he wanted it. but theres some new stuff added including an alternate ending. I don't think it imoproves the original version much. |
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is it solely new stuff put in, or were any weaker moments cut out? |
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so in summary. the added scenes help out Alien 1 the most i think. the others were good without it and didn't get a whole lot better with it. not worse either though. eh.. naw Aliens2 got a bit better. yeah but not as much as Alien1. yep |
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oh totally. in part 3 they completely replaced the alien dog birth scene with a completely different host. serious. but in the others i didn't really notice anything getting cut necessarily. |
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SPOILERS SPOILERS that part, by the way, the ox instead of dog alien birth, got much worse. i like it bursting out of a live dog better than a dead ox. |
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just wondered if they'd re-worked the disappointing scene near the end of alien where the creater is blown out of the airlock at the back of the escape craft by ripley + for the first time you see it in its entirity, dangling at the end of a cable.. and it looks like a man in a black rubber suit. |
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a space ox? |
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nope that's the same. but the alien was supposed to be man-like if you wanna get picky. it was born from a man. |
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the prisoners use the ox to move shit around outside something else that is added. the biggest movie-affecting changes occur in the Alien 3 extended cut. more than in any other special cut. |
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sure, it was a bi-ped (our depictions of alien life forms are invitably limited by our own experiences) ..but it wasn't born from a man. it was a parasite that incubated inside him.. but genetically it had nothing to do with him. ..if you want to be picky. :) |
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well, if you want to be picky, Alien 4 supposes that there is some kind of genetic link between the host and the alien. and the dog alien was doggy like because of it's doggy / oxy host. if you wanna be pickey. |
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but the writers hadn't thought of that spin on it when they wrote the first film. lets remember that they were devised with an overall concept in mind. i thought the alien/human mixup (which went both ways in #4) was a byproduct of them clonig ripley from the dna they had: they weren't able to completely separate her genes + those of the alien.. hence all the failed attempts pickled in the lab.. and that stupid gormless alien/human child born at the end of the film. the big thing with pale skin that looked a bit like an anaemic pizza-the-hut from mel brookes' spaceballs. i don't want to be picky.. why do you keep asking me? |
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*weren't... not were they WEREN'T devised with an overall concept in mind. |
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i'm just saying, since it's been added and accepted, it becomes part of the Lore behind Alien thusly retro-actively justifying inconsistancies or aging special effects technique. but yeah i know what yer saying. i'm just trying to start some lively debate. |
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like when starwars toys and books get the Starwars seal of approval and they officially become part of the starwars universe, able to be referenced by any other part of said universe. |
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well i watched the alternate version of Alien 3 again and i've changed my mind about some stuff. i think it is much better. Now, I actually kinda like the added sequence where they catch and then release the alien. This time, I paid closer attention to how they developed the crazy character named "golic" and it now makes sense to me that he would want to set the creature free. i think i still like the sequence where the dog births the alien better than the dead ox birthing it. but i don't think the ox version is too much worse. so aside from a few sticks of added dialogue, i think the extended version of Alien 3 is much better. not that anybody cares but yo. yo |
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They're... hatching! oh... my! |
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AWESOME! |
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yes. |
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The first one is good, the rest are shit. |
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