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Q4Z2X
on 2003-12-23 01:15 [#01002745]
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i never gave the album all that much of a chance, i liked it on the first few listens, and didn't think that it really was all that special.
but i found a pretty interesting article describing some of the mathematics and ideas behind some of it, and an alternate tracklisting that supposedly makes the album flow together more.
i haven't tried doing it, but it's kind of a strange but interesting thing if these "secrets" were intended.. and i really like the idea of a fibonacci sequence played on drums
discuss..
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-12-23 01:25 [#01002749]
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I found it lyrically bland and hackneyed, but I suppose there is more to it?
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-12-23 01:38 [#01002754]
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well, yeah i agree with you about the lyrics a bit.. i've heard that the album was written with the band members under the influence of lsd, so maybe that has something to do with it.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-12-23 01:40 [#01002755]
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i think its the best tool album
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-12-23 01:49 [#01002758]
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I think its the worst, but I found this interesting: I can honestly say that I never understood the album's fourth track, Mantra until reordering the album's songs. What I had originally heard as whale calls now had begun to resemble the worst imaginable dry heaves - or a stylized choking. Fitting, seeing as how the last line in Ticks & Leeches is "I hope you choke."
The sounds in mantra is actually Maynard choking his siamese cat. Pretty cool. I'm going to try this different track order right now, listening to Parabola.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-12-23 01:50 [#01002759]
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i really hate maynard... ive met him, he is a horrible man
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-12-23 01:52 [#01002762]
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Heheh, my friend thinks he's the devil after she was invited to the aftershow orgy. I saw the pass that they gave her. it was an emptied capri-sun with a sticker on the back of girls giving blowjobs to the band.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-12-23 01:56 [#01002764]
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i just tried this guys order using traktor to just dj mix the tracks...
seems like he wants to believe that his alternate tracklisting is some devine gift... it isnt, the order makes more sense on the album... you cant split disposition/reflection/triad... its just too perfect... parabola / schism / ticks and leeches did however mix rather well
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-12-23 01:56 [#01002765]
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so far, the guitar at the end of parabola goes really good into the guitar at the beginning of lateralus
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-12-23 01:58 [#01002766]
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yeah, I didn't get what the hell he was going on about, and I don't think his "Algebra 2!" education gives him any merit. It just sounded like mumbo-jumbo zodiacal number theory stuff.
"13 tracks divided by 2 spirals equals 6.5, meaning that track 6 and 7 must be together"
Uh, yeah!
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-12-23 02:00 [#01002767]
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yeah this is bollucks, i hate all these "omg hidden wonders - so and so band are really clever" things.
dont get me wrong i do love lateralus
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-12-23 02:02 [#01002770]
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eep. i wanted someone to try it who's already got the songs on the computer handy and such.
damn.. i knew this guy sounded a bit too excited about his "discovery"
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-12-23 02:04 [#01002773]
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I've got them on my computer, I'm trying it out right now.
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Tropa
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-12-23 02:10 [#01002778]
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"The sounds in mantra is actually Maynard choking his siamese cat. Pretty cool."
WHAT?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-12-23 02:11 [#01002779]
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Yeah, he squeezed his cat and he thought it sounded really cool so he immediately recorded it and distorted it. Thats what it is. Sorry to dispel whatever ideas you might have had about pretty whales or something.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-12-23 02:12 [#01002780]
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Great avatar by the way!
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Tropa
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-12-23 02:18 [#01002783]
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Thanks.
I don't really know anything about Maynard or Tool. What I've heard by them I've liked, but the idea of someone choking a cat because it sounds cool goes beyond my comprehension.
I wish you hadn't told me that. :)
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2003-12-23 04:14 [#01002854]
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teapot you've met maynard? how was he like? did he try to stinkfist you? :D I used be a huge tool fan untill this electronic music came.
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faaip_de_oiad
from Sirius (United States) on 2003-12-23 04:20 [#01002863]
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That's a bullshit rumor about the cat. Tool loves to start these bullshit rumors just to fuck with people, because people are idiots and will believe anything. You should realize that most the hearsay about Tool is false.
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faaip_de_oiad
from Sirius (United States) on 2003-12-23 04:28 [#01002868]
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After Lateralus came out and I gave it many concentrated listens, I realized how much of a connection it had with the Qabala. So I researched deeper and put together a detailed explaination about the correlation. I think you'll find it interesting. (My Tool site is down, so I had to upload it to another site I run.)
The Correlation Between Lateralus and the Qabala
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-12-23 05:09 [#01002888]
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teapot, you've met maynard? decent!
mappatazee, aftershow orgy pass?! yeah right!
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-12-23 05:38 [#01002906]
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yeah i met him and billy howerdel during apc's mer de noms tour...i did a lot of chatting with billy while maynard was sat there, when i said something to maynard he just gave me a blank stare, billy looked uncomfortable, said something quietly to maynard to which he replied "fuck you" a female fan came up to maynard and his response was to clench his fists and motion to punch her to which she quickly backed off... i shook billy howerdels hand and then called maynard i bitter little man...
(true story) no one ever believes me tho
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-12-23 05:42 [#01002911]
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I don't lie!
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-12-23 05:43 [#01002917]
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She did go backstage, and this is what he asked her: Maynard: "How old are you?" Her: "Experience wise?" Maynard: "How old would the state of Oregon say you were?"
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-23 05:46 [#01002922]
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Fucking up the order of the tracks may result in a different mood but it won't make them any fucking better will it? I place this behind Aenima and Undertow
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-12-23 05:52 [#01002925]
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*concurrance*
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