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offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-12-20 06:39 [#00999192]
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sorry, it's in german:
orf.at

basically, the highest court in the netherlands approved
that p2p networks are not responsible for copyright
infringment (correct english term? dunno) for what their
users are doing.



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-20 06:40 [#00999193]
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Which means it's time to start suing the users.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-20 06:41 [#00999194]
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heheheh


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-12-20 06:42 [#00999196]
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yeah thats what i read in the newspaper this morning...



 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-12-20 06:43 [#00999197]
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provider cannot be forced to give users details, at least
not in austria and i doubt anywhere in europe.

AND not in america, that's the second recent development

they'll admit defeat on that front and will try with online
stores pretty soon
i think


 

offline Tropa from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-12-20 06:43 [#00999198]
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is the decision aimed at the users or the "p2p network"
itself?

I'm just thinking that in a true p2p network (such as
gnutella) there really isn't anybody to sue _except_ the
users.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-12-20 06:44 [#00999200]
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Whoa, that's a very misleading thread-title. By no means is
it legal over here now to share or dl copyrighted material.


All they said was that Kazaa couldn't be held responsible
for how people use the network. One newspaper compared it to
how you can't blame the person who sold the gun, if it was
used to shoot someone.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-20 06:44 [#00999201]
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Stay off Kazaa and on slsk for now - it seems to be under
the radar while they go after the big guys.

Now they're doing the same thing in Canada, going after
users who share lots of files.


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-12-20 06:47 [#00999204]
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in austria it's illegal to have even the tiniest amount of
pot - however, under a certain limit, there is no sueing.
it's legal in that sense - 'literally' illegal, still there
is no sueing

(i doubt that my use of the word sueing is proper)


 

offline Tropa from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-12-20 06:48 [#00999205]
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same here in finland


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-12-20 06:49 [#00999207]
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i heard of that, but i think this tactic is on the
downhill.

not one person in europe (as far as i know) has been brought
to court for p2p yet.

police is rather focusing on child pornography and the likes


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-12-20 06:52 [#00999208]
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the court decided that there cannot be legal action against
kazaa for providing a technology.


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-12-20 07:03 [#00999219]
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filesharing IS legal
violation of copyright law is not, of course

the thread title is perfectly fine, i think


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-12-20 07:06 [#00999221]
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technically yes.
But when someone says "filesharing" in a place like this,
i'm sure we all understand what he or she means, and how it
involves violation of copyright laws.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-12-20 07:47 [#00999230]
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I love violating copyright laws on a daily basis. It tells
me I'm doing the right thing.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-12-20 08:08 [#00999235]
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I agree also, but that just shows that we use the incorrect
interpretation of the phrase. If I was dutch, then I'd be
silly to think that this was an amazing ruling, but the
reality of it is different I think. This just means now,
that individuals will be tracked down and made an example
of.

In my mind, programs such as Kazaa and Soulseek were never
really an issue.....its the content of your sharing thats
the issue, like many here have said


 


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