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glasse
from Harrisburg (United States) on 2003-12-18 03:15 [#00996514]
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Is anyone else excited to hear this? Otto Von's involvement in this along with cEvin Key's movement into more experimental "idmish" electronic and away from industrial makes me think there will be interesting results. (Although even when Puppy was doing their darkwave stuff it transcended anything else really going on at the time).
I came into idmish electronic out of industrial music (it seems many come into it either out of the industrial or rave scenes, since it is in some ways a bizzare marriage of the two) and although I moved away from most industrial cEvin's work continues to interest me. It would be interesting to see him do a collaberation with Autechre or something.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-12-18 03:25 [#00996521]
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well it should be interesting, i for one will look into it.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-18 10:09 [#00996771]
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yeh, it's gon' be sweet.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-12-18 11:45 [#00996869]
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The way I see it is whatever Skinny Puppy is doing is industrial. They fucking started it.
If the Sexpistols came out with a Disco album that is the new punk lol.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-12-18 11:46 [#00996870]
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St Anger is the new Metal
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-12-18 11:47 [#00996872]
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HAHAHA! Metallica ! HAHAHA!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-18 11:52 [#00996877]
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ew.
youre fired.
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steve
from chicago on 2003-12-18 19:42 [#00997523]
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As usual, hoping for the best, expecting the worst. cEvin and Ogre haven't put out anything I could enjoy in such a long time, not including albums of older material previously unreleased, i.e. The Dragon Experience
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-18 22:38 [#00997675]
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i thoguht that album sucked horribly. sounds SO amateur.
ghost of each room adn sunnypsyop were the JAM though!!!!
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_user
from rostov-on-don (Russia) on 2003-12-18 22:51 [#00997682]
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skinny puppy are the same people who are in download and cevin key?
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steve
from chicago on 2003-12-19 00:57 [#00997720]
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tibbar: The Dragon Experience was older material, previously unreleased. I don't think it sounds amateur, but if it does, you have to keep in mind the era in which it was released. If you're spoiled on modern electronic music, it just may sound "amateur"
user: Skinny Puppy was mainly cEvin Key, Nivek Ogre and Dwayne Goettel. After Puppy was put to an end, cEvin focused mainly on Download. Nivek Ogre (vocalist) wasn't in Download, and Dwayne died just as Download was beginning.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-19 02:20 [#00997764]
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ah, but download's first few albums used a TON of material dwayne had recorded during the furnace sessions. word is that it spread across furnace, microscopic ep, charlie's family, sidewinder ep, and the eyes of stanley pain.
after dwayne's material was "all used up", download went another direction (also because of mark spybey leaving, good ridance). the core then shifted from cEvin, dwayne, mark & philth to cEvin, philth & hiwatt. after a few more albums, philth sadly also left download.
that pretty much kills another download album.
key's been doing solo stuff (and developing his talents quite far).
still, i hope that aduck (dwayne) solo lp comes out someday... which it prolly wont, sicne dwayne's family wont let cEvin have the rights.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-19 02:24 [#00997765]
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btw, user:
i dont know if youve never heard them before... if not, then i recommend you check out the following:
skinny puppy - rabies too dark park last rights cevin key - the ghost of each room download - the eyes of stanley pain III ohgr - sunnypsyop v/a - paradigm shift compilation (the entire thign is unreleased tracks from those people's various projects. one of their best releases thoguh)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-19 13:43 [#00998471]
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I still think "Last Rights" is the best industrial album ever created.
that paradigm shift comp is dope. some of the goettel solo stuff on it is supreme.
my favorite Download album is "Furnace" though.. "Bee Hatch" is probably my favorite Download track
i tatooed the "SP" skinny puppy logo below my left knee with a safety pin and caligraphy ink. I used to be hard core.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-19 13:50 [#00998484]
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evolume: a) last rights IS the best industrial album ever. b) paradigm shift IS dope. c) furnace is good, but a bit too noisy for me, and spybey and especially p-orridge's vocals piss me off.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-12-19 13:59 [#00998497]
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yeah, it kinda gets a nostalgia vote from me (furnace) and that Bee Hatch track is the sweets.
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APeSHiTZ
from ¤BANgbANG¤ on 2003-12-19 15:11 [#00998594]
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Love this news.. thank odin the almighty for this
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-12-19 15:59 [#00998642]
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I'm not excited. I'm never excited about this ''reunion'' stuff. With such low hopes, maybe they'll surprise me. But I'll take Bites before any new glossy modernized production.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-19 16:56 [#00998667]
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phecks: they broke up a number of times actually... this isnt the first puppy "rebirth". they broke i think 3 times before (drug related, im sure). personally, i think most of what ogre and key have done SINCE puppy has been a build up to a great puppy album. if you listen to key's 'the ghost of each room', particularly "frozen sky", youll see a new puppy emerging. i personally say: take all that you learned form download, ohgr, plateau, doubting thomas, etc... and throw it all together and let puppy be somethign new. i would hate to see last rights or the process part 2. i want something new and bold from them, which is what i always loved about them in the first place. i dont see this as like a sex pistols reunion, these are 2 best friends who have ended their feuding over the tragic death of their mutual partner, and are ready to breakthrough with somethign new and exciting thats been highly anticipated (even on their own parts). read an interview with key about 2 years ago that said he feels like hes been doing music with ogre so long he actually finds himself writing with his voice in mind, or somethign along those lines. i just think its the way thigns ought to be. there should ALWAYS be a skinny puppy, as long as those 2 live.
in my top 5 for best musical group of all time.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-19 17:01 [#00998669]
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whew... sorry bout that.
i should just write a book & shut up :D
hahaha
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tallyho
from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2003-12-19 17:09 [#00998685]
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"in my top 5 for best musical group of all time."
what are the other four then? :)
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-19 17:13 [#00998690]
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maria!!!!!!!!
how you doin, girly?!?!?
um......
other 4 (in no particular order): * autechre * radiohead (thoguh my interest is slowly starting to fade a bit)
* beatles (obligatory) * truth will out (my best friend's stuff, which i REALLY honestly think is great)
* erik satie
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-19 17:14 [#00998691]
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oops, i picked 5 there, didnt i?
take my friends stuff off, then ;)
(im horrible)
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tallyho
from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2003-12-19 17:33 [#00998717]
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oh, i see. ;)
i haven't heard any Puppy album, can you believe it? i've always been much more into Ministry :D
i think i'll get and give a listen to that 'Last Rights' album, may be just out of curiosity.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-19 17:34 [#00998718]
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
unh unh unh unh unh unh unh
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-19 17:38 [#00998722]
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it is their MASTERPIECE~!!!
you can see how it influenced alot of modern electronic (autechre has admitted this of their work).
it is epic and deep. 2 thigns which usually dont go together so well, but this is easily as tragic a work as any shakespearian play.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-19 17:50 [#00998729]
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btw: maria, i snet you an email... dont knwo if you got it or not.
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tallyho
from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2003-12-19 17:56 [#00998736]
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no i haven't
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-12-19 17:57 [#00998740]
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oh :(
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