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Vestron
on 2003-12-17 13:56 [#00995795]
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I feel ashamed asking this but I've always been curious...are they rich?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-12-17 13:58 [#00995799]
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i am
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2003-12-17 13:59 [#00995801]
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no. probably not i would think. they probaby have more mulah than the average joe, but i doubt theyre stunnin'. if you knowwhutimsayin'.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-12-17 14:00 [#00995803]
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id guess
not
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-17 14:02 [#00995804]
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what's rich?
they make millions...but that doesnt make them rich
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-12-17 14:03 [#00995808]
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Prove it.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-17 14:05 [#00995810]
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well if they get a buck out of every record they sell, that makes them millionars, doesnt it?
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-12-17 14:06 [#00995812]
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money is in the eye of the beholder, they are one of the top acts, im sure they are doing ok, and i like them cause they dont flaunt it
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-17 14:06 [#00995813]
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Aphex is a millionaire and I'm pretty sure autechre are. Now that I live in such a cheap place I barely care about money myself though, at least having more than I need or want which isn't much.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-17 14:08 [#00995816]
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they dont get a buck for every record they sell. no artist does.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-12-17 14:08 [#00995817]
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some do
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Vestron
on 2003-12-17 14:09 [#00995818]
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clearly I'm meaning wealthy by saying rich
yeah I suppose if they were they'd have bought an entire medical laboratory by now to make more complex phat beats
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-17 14:09 [#00995819]
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you actually belive they sold million?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-17 14:11 [#00995823]
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i'd imagine they're not too friendly with modern hardware, so they save money on that part...
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2003-12-17 14:12 [#00995826]
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HA! a million! i think if you put EVERY single piece of booth/brown music together it just MIGHT reach a million. thats gescom, and god knows what other shit we dont know about.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-17 14:12 [#00995827]
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What does "going platinum" mean? Is that selling a million... if so autechre definately havn't sold a million copies because only slim shady and such "goes platinum"
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-17 14:13 [#00995829]
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yeah, cos they must have sold at least 300.000 copies as gescom, right? :)
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-12-17 14:14 [#00995830]
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a recent interview in xlr8r (draft7.30) said insted of looking into every software (confield) they are doing just one software and looking into it extensively
all could change next release though
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-12-17 14:15 [#00995831]
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you think they've sold a MILLION albums? what gave you that idea?
they've sold nowhere near a million..
have a look here, electronica is not a big seller
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-12-17 14:15 [#00995832]
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Ooh, I had the exact same idea for your avatar.
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Intruder
from Chicago (United States) on 2003-12-17 14:15 [#00995833]
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every copy counts!
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-12-17 14:15 [#00995834]
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1,000,000 is correct
your big bands now, the pearl jams, the slim shaddies and what have you, sell the 600,000 or so in week one
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-17 14:18 [#00995839]
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im sure they didnt sell million, and that is sad...seeing all those other crap musicians selling million in 2 weeks or so...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-17 14:19 [#00995840]
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autechre should simply stop looking into the medium of music so extensively. I still wish the'd make videogames. The draft video was an awesome creation in the animation medium but they didn't make it.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-17 14:20 [#00995841]
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You're right, you should be ashamed for asking this.
Does it matter if they're rich or not? Would you perceive them or their music any differently if they millionaires than if they were paupers?
Why do you want to know? Are you working for the Inland Revenue or something?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-17 14:20 [#00995844]
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They would have to have sold about 50,000 (don't shoot me if I am wrong) copies of each release as autechre to have sold a million. There's no way they have sold a million.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-12-17 14:23 [#00995846]
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They've both got million dollar smiles, right Lads?
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Vestron
on 2003-12-17 14:25 [#00995847]
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no like I said, I've always been curious.
would it matter? of course not.
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Vestron
on 2003-12-17 14:28 [#00995850]
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to know that most "successful" electronic artists need to maintain dayjobs IS a little bit discouraging. not enough to seriously affect me...but still...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-17 14:30 [#00995852]
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"Does it matter if they're rich or not? Would you perceive them or their music any differently if they millionaires than if they were paupers?"
im sure top idm artists could be making a lot more money if the wanted...but they apperantly don't.
and it makes difference to me knowing they're making music cos they enjoy doing it, not doing it for the money.
that doesnt apply to their music ofcurse, cos when it comes to music i either like it or i dont
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-17 14:30 [#00995853]
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If autechre wanted to make and keep the entire 16$ per cd they sell I see no reason why they couldn't have. As soon as they became popular through warp, they developed a dedicated fanbase. they then could have created their own web page and sold their albums themselves with no middle-money-man. It might seem impossible to burn 50,000 or whatever cd's themselves, but mass cd creating technologyxists somewhere, given that big labels are able to manufacture so many. So why couldn't they invest in the capital of such cd-making equipment themselves? There's the problem of mass mailing so many but there must be an easy way to do this too since people/companies mass sell cd's or whatever on ebay.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-17 14:34 [#00995857]
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It will be interesting to see how the Global Goon experiment pans out for him? I'll go down the dole office and ask him in a couple of months. :D
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cie jiks mawp
from motion to descend (Australia) on 2003-12-17 14:38 [#00995860]
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"autechre making video games."
Thats the idea of the year!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-17 14:50 [#00995873]
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someone sure as hell needs to re-design videogames from the ground up instead of constantly relying on the available culture to make short cuts. I'd like to dedicate my life to this, but I'll see how lame I am with using computer architecture later on. I reckon that most likely an equally obscure videogame creator(s) exists of autechre quality somewhere I havn't found.
How is global goon going to burn so many? And what is the "dole office"? If musicians only make 1$ per 16$ through a label, then they merely have to sell their albums for like 4 bucks each to still make a greater profit for themselves?
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2003-12-17 14:51 [#00995874]
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I believe on the live chat interview on warp they replied to some question along the lines of 'yes, it's good to make music for a living'. judging by that i'd say they get by. i wouldn't think they are rich, but probably don't have money problems too often.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-17 14:54 [#00995880]
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How hard can it be to burn 7 copies for his preorder list?
The dole office is a club where you queue up to receive social security benefit money.
Thank you for your enquiries...
ecnadbot
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2003-12-17 16:43 [#00995971]
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from what i understand, BoC has shitloads of money.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-17 16:50 [#00995981]
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They have sold their souls to the corporate devils on many occassions though.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2003-12-17 16:52 [#00995986]
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even souls have a price.
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hevquip
from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2003-12-17 16:54 [#00995988]
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but that was my point i should've made. BoC have money because of the corporate devils who payed for it.
autechre had a track in a volkswagen commercial. that should've brought in some money.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-17 17:01 [#00996004]
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Nothing wrong with a bit of money. Fact is they do what they do and its rather good so let them have their rewards. I don't give shit. I don't wanna be putting a clamp on how much money people can earn. Fact is money doesn't make everyone happy anyways. If you're a miserable sod in the first place, all the money in the world wouldn't make any difference.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-17 17:02 [#00996009]
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They got record sales, live shows, merchandise, licencing etc etc. So I would imagine they're doing alright.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-12-17 17:05 [#00996013]
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Most of these artists (Warp/Rephlex) don't earn shit. Aphex makes big bucks 'cause his music gets licensed a lot and he has the top sales. This topic has been done before anyways. Mike P does about 20k or something a year. So thats the nub of it unless the person making the music has a genius plan he ain't gonna be rolling in it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-17 17:08 [#00996020]
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I imagine Rich has a considerable amount more than them... they said in one of their interviews they do okay, but you wouldn't think it to look at their bank accounts.
wMw - artists on labels like Warp/Mu/Rephlex make a much better percentage from the label than 1/16th of the profits... nearer to 50% I believe.
If all you really want is to spend most of your free time "doing" music, so long as you have enough cash to survive, buy some new gear and records every now and then, you're laughing.
There is also a healthy scene of videogame creators who are "outside" convention as much as Ae... check out llamasoft.co.uk for a bit of insight.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-17 20:31 [#00996246]
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Thanks for the llamasoft link! I downloaded the gridrunner++ demo. It's visually interesting and complicated in a simple gameboyish kind of way, though I still don't know if it's fun because I've only played it 10 minutes. That messageboard should be a wealth of information too.
the most obscure games I've found, though I havn't done much searching yet, were some "independent" game makers who were on tech tv's videogame show I think who experimented in weird ways, like simulating water with huge numbers of sprites instead of polygons or something.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-12-17 20:50 [#00996253]
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yeah! thanks for the link! :)
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-12-17 21:02 [#00996261]
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i wouldnt be surprised if the most autechre has sold of a single cd is under 20,000 copies or so - i cant imagine artists such as aphex and ae selling a ton - but thats just my estimate
why dont we get some official statistics from warp on record sales of ae, aphex, and squarepusher?
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-12-18 07:57 [#00996670]
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200,000 copies of drukqs were sold though.
Read that here a while ago...
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-12-18 08:02 [#00996678]
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no ae arent rich....aphex twin is rich, ae are rob and sean.
they dont do it for the money, they do it for the respect and the making people happy. therefore all the money is profit.
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pf
from Finland on 2003-12-18 08:05 [#00996681]
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but aint it right that the autechre dudes own apart of skam? that could make the welthy.
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