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...and fell on a candy cane and impaled himself! Don't forget that bit. |
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There will be no death penalty for Saddam. One of the first things the US did was to abolish it, which is kind of ironic. |
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extradition |
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For what? |
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Making George Bush look like a complete twat over WMD. |
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They should dress him pu like a child and send him to Michael Jackson. |
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He'd better not get tried by the yanks. |
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I wonder if there will a nice TV trial? Like with OJ but better! |
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i recon they parade him down blackpool promenade naked while he gets his arse paddled with kebabs by recovering heroin addicts that spew methodone on him |
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For what? For "because we said so" |
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After a month of American VIP treatment he'll be happy to "confess" his role in 911 |
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he had no role in 911. even the americains admit this (although this admission was fairly low-key so the average redneck probably isn't aware) |
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Public execution at half time at the superbowl. |
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America gets what it wants again ! Hurray! I bet they are eating more cheesies and watching more TV just to celebrate : ) |
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The US government has been talking out of both sides of their mouth on this issue... yes they've openly stated that he had nothing to do with 911 but Condoleeza Rice et al continue to mention Saddam and 911 in the same breath so as to combine the two in the minds of the public. BTW, as to why the Americans cannot allow Saddam to have a full and fair trial... |
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Condoleeza Rice is the devil. I bet they'll pull out all the stops now in order to bag Bin Laden. Then the morronic masses will re-elect Bush and corruption will continue to reign :( |
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fuckin hell! |
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Saddam is / was an evil fucker, for sure. But if he is a part of the "axis of evil" then so is the US govt. |
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Maybe they dissolved the death penalty to prevent something like the French Revolution where heads were lopped off right and left because of angry towards the old regime. It is ironic if at some point it isn't restored, you're right. |
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Yeah you have a point there - they probably imagined the Shia and Sunni sects calling for each others' decapitations (whatever) under their respective interpretations of Sharia. |
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yay! yeah, dispite what they're saying, i can't believe they'll allow saddam an open trial. he's got way too much incrimenating knowledge. |
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Jeez, I... You don't think they also washed him, do you? |
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so does this mean Bush will be re-elected? |
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scarily, yes |
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I think its more satisfying to me that we caught him, but I still think the war has really been a horrible fuck up in a lot of ways. Everyone knows that Saddam was just a sick fuck, so no matter what side your on, its good he's caught. |
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hey... we finally got that fuck! hahah! He looks silly! :D |
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Now just arrest Bush and Blair and all will be good in the world. |
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Its good news but I don't think it'll make any differences to the terrorist activities that are going on in Iraq. But it makes the Iraqi people a bit more relaxed and happy thats a good thing. |
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I agree with that |
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Give him the death penalty I say. Screw WMD and other info plea bargin, this will be a message to all the other nuts, that they can't get away with genacide. |
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true. |
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i would assume they would. |
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yeah.....Kill SADDDAM HUSSEIN |
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I totally disagree |
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How any trial plays out will be interesting. You can't have a fair trial without also trying some Americans. It'll be a whitewash I suspect. |
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Soon it will be time for a bright sparkling new war elsewhere. It'll be a while before they can build Iraq up enough to play let's you and him fight with Iran - I think Korea's next - Bush is already hinting to China that he'll look the other way re: Taiwan if they look the other way re: North Korea. "The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labour. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent. Even when weapons of war are not actually destroyed, their manufacture is still a convenient way of expending labour power without producing anything that can be consumed." - George Orwell |
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This will be a long "war". The resistance is growing daily and will only increase now Saddam is gone. I hope the US suffer the same fate they did in Vietnam and be forced out. |
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You hope that young n-n-n-n-n-n-ineteen year old guys get massacred? That's surely a bit harsh. I don't think that the US's political stance is a very wise one, but to wish death on young soldiers is slightly cruel. |
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I don't wish for young men and women to die but in the last instance I want the Iraqis to kick the Americans and Brits out as soon as they can. the longer they are there the more innocent Iraqis will be killed and after all, the US/UK invaded, not the other way around. The onus is on the imperialists. |
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There's no such thing as an innocent iraqi. |
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Then there's no such thing as an innocent Brit or Yank. I didn't mean "innocent" as in, they've never masturbated or cursed their mothers. |
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Neither did i. What i am saying is that we freed the country of their despotic dictator and how do they return the favour? By killing the soldiers that freed them. i don't trust them one bit. Did you see how they celebrated hearing the news about saddam's capture? By firing guns in the street. That is hardly the actions of people i would like to trust. The main problem with giving people like that freedom is that they use it as excuse to rape, pillage and murder. |
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imo: the americans pulling out now would be a horrible thing for the innocent iraqis. regardless of how you felt about the war, a stable (albeit horrible) gov't was removed. there is no one entity strong enough to govern iraq right now. if we leave, it'll be an unbelievable shitstorm of civil war, an nobody will be strong enough to enforce any sort of law. we (primarily the us... but others did play key roles) created this mess... now, i firmly believe it is the responsible thing for us to try and rebuild the infrastructure that we blew up durring the two gulf wars (and iraqi insurgent groups continue to destroy), and try to put in place a responsible gov't. It would be very nice, and a friendly gesture from the world community if they would offer whatever help they could, and i'm sure the iraqi people, who've suffered horribly for damn near 30 years would appreciate it. but, if other countries want to hold out assistance through sheer spite, and hatred for the US, then i suppose it'll have to be up to us and our small group of allies to try and rebuild a stable iraq. imo: leaving now would be a horrible mistake. |
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you takin the piss? |
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But you are working from the premise that the US wanted to create a democratic Iraq. How could this be their motivation when they armed adn supported him? How do you explain that contradiction? The only way to explain it is to see the US government as liars. By remaining in Iraq the US/UK will ensure that the resistance grows. There will be no peace while the troops are there. Indeed the troops are a repressive force and have been killing civilians on a daily basis. The only solution is to pull out and offer financial aid with no strings attached (i.e. no IMF austerity measures). The Iraqi people are the only ones who can, and should, rebuild their country. Anything else is arrogant imperialism. |
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government makes for strange bedfellows. at the time we liked saddam more than we liked iran. plain and simple. that's how i explain it. is it a perfect world? absolutely not. do shady things happen every day behind the closed doors of the most powerful leaders in the world. absofuckinglutely. ok, we pull out... who exactly do we offer this financial support to? there is no organized group of iraqis large enough to control the different factions. obviously we have a fundamental disagreement on this matter. i don't think either of us will sway the others beliefs significantly. i speak mine, you speak yours. as far as i'm concerned we agree to disagree. |
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I'm not happy with the arrest of Saddam: Bush will become more poplular and expert predicted that there will be more terrorism in Iracq after his capture |
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"at the time we liked saddam more than we liked iran." I think that's a rather insufficient explanation of what happened. How about: the US exploited the situation, armed and backed a dictator and was complicit in the deaths of tens of thousands of people. We in the West kept on backing him durning and AFTER he gaassed the Kurds of Halabja. These are not minor details. Its up to the Iraqis to form whatever organisations THEMSELVES. We all know however that the US will only leave when it has a leader and authority that will bow to its interests and will embrace neo-liberalism. |
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i'm not trying to justify our support of less than savory characters such as saddam, only explain how it happend. on this point we don't disagree. you assume the us doesn't want a democratic iraq, i do disagree with this. will we try and start with a gov't that is friendly to us? yes, of course. should it be primarily up to iraqis to choose the gov't? yes, most certainly. but, do i think we should pull our troops out? no. not at all. imo, we are helping to provide whatever simbolance of security there is in iraq right now. if we leave there will be 10,000 warlords all fighting for control of their own little chunk of iraq, and killing whoever isn't on their side... "innocents" as well. look at afganistan. we pulled out a great number of troops, and put afganis in charge, and the whole world including Hamid Karzi ask for us to come back on a daily basis. and, btw, i do think we pulled out of afganistan too soon as well... however the bushlet got a hardon for the guy who tried to kill his daddy, and plans changed. |
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