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xf
from Australia on 2003-12-11 21:54 [#00987654]
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i work upstairs at an apple reseller; just wandered down there before and not only is there royskopp - eple on the os x installer, they have these rotating movies they play, and there were tracks from different IDM artists; i can't pick who, though. somebody walking in made a comment on the music and that it was good.
i'm betting my arse idm becomes popular within, even, the next 2 years. we're already seeing it a hell of a lot in advertising marketed towards the higher consumer; 'smart music'?
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-12-11 21:59 [#00987655]
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i walked into the local apple store the other day. while i was there they played bjork, squarepusher, radiohead and amon tobin.
i want to work there.
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-12-11 22:34 [#00987659]
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haha, that's interesting!
intelligent apple music! :)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-12-11 22:38 [#00987660]
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idm sucks!
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-12-11 22:47 [#00987662]
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idm isn't going to become "popular" though, for the exact reason that its used as advertising music. its not associated with popular culture, its not danceable, and it doesn't have particularly marketable artists either.
it might catch on more than it has with the emo/indie crowd, maybe with some others as well, but i doubt it will ever become mainstream. doesn't matter much.
whoops, theres already a topic on this.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2003-12-11 22:47 [#00987663]
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the writer of supercollider www.audiosynth.com works at apple on coreaudio.
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xf
from Australia on 2003-12-11 23:15 [#00987666]
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dude, emo/indie *IS* mainstream. i find the term 'alternative' highly amusing.
popularising something isn't an issue, it's just that most people seem to like crap. seriously. crap attracts. lets just hope that 'idm' doesn't go down the toilet.
(GET IT I MADE A PUN?????)
idm needs a better name, anyway.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-12-11 23:48 [#00987670]
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yes, emo/indie is currently popular, this is true. i guess i'm saying i don't expect to ever see squarepusher on TRL, to make an extreme assumption.
anyway, like alot of things, IDM is mostly crap, with a few truly original, stand out artists. and the term itself is hypervague. to apply it to both boards of canada and autechre is funny, because they sound nothing alike, yet both are associated with it.
other people on here have pointed out that the real problem with this music, the thing that most affects the perception of it, isn't the music itself, but the fans.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-12 01:24 [#00987695]
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"it might catch on more than it has with the emo/indie crowd,"
Sadly it has... read NME and you'll see (especially reader reviews) are very quick to compare any emo with electronic instruments to Aphex Twin.
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uzim
on 2003-12-12 01:59 [#00987715]
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must be better than the annoying crap they play for this iPod commercial...!
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-12 03:04 [#00987739]
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Orange Company already used AFX track "to cure a weakling child" in their commercial of a computer - and this happened few years ago, right after releasibg the track
i think that idm will become more popular, but it will never be popular as, for example , euro-techno.
Of course if artists like Ae or AFX will not stop making music
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-12-12 03:18 [#00987754]
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i cant see serious acts like afx and ae wanting to keep making music once it becomes much more popular and everyones' making crap idm tracks....but experimental music will go on forever in some form.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-12 03:20 [#00987757]
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well i didnt said that they will do it because of some purpose - just if they will be stiil doing what are they doing now - IDm never becomes popular - people just dont understand this music, and im speaking for my country , where Scooter and britney are on the top of popularity
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-12 03:22 [#00987761]
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afx, ae, pusher etc. are never going to sell out...if they wanted that they'd do it already
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-12-12 04:08 [#00987794]
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IF idm music would become mainstream, not that possible but IF you all guys would listen to britney instead.
phobiazero would change xltronic into poptronic and we all would talk about "Oh, I heard enriqe iglesias at the apple store the other day" & "I know a guy who works at apple, and they play
oops i did it again everyday there.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-12 04:16 [#00987801]
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yeah, you always hear electronic music played in commercials... what needs to happen is that Aphex Twin, BoC, Autechre, etc, some artist or group needs to release a real catchy idm song... catchy enough to get popular, but still idm so it reflects the so called genre, and then they need to do a real good video with it, something a little more mainstream then Come to Daddy or Windowlicker (both excellent videos, but not something you're going to see on heavy rotation really)... and I'd say once one Warp group (or any other label) made it real big, the rest would probably follow...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-12 04:19 [#00987803]
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or, something like I mentioned one time before, a group like Autechre could do a collaboration with some fairly mainstream, but still credible, rapper... you know, some real nice beats, with rapping over it... I'm always thinking when listening to Autechre that they could be so big if they did that... they make some of the best beats around, and a good collaberation with some fairly popular rapper could get their name out there more...
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-12-12 04:25 [#00987811]
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I don't want autechre to be BIG and work with lousy rappers.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-12-12 04:34 [#00987822]
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when req became crap he started working with rapper kid acne, and voila! he is good again
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-12 05:08 [#00987852]
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well, I didn't mean lousy rappers... and I didn't mean they'd do it all the time... I just think it'd be cool for them to do one song or something like that...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-12-12 15:29 [#00988759]
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No, IDM isn't going to become popular. The fact that those guys had IDM on their computer was amazing. It's amazing because it's a rare occurence. And it's a rare occurence because this shit isn't going to get fucking popular.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2003-12-12 15:42 [#00988779]
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sarcasm?
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-12-12 17:40 [#00988949]
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what is idm?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-12 21:18 [#00989099]
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i dont think he was being sarcastic.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-12 21:19 [#00989100]
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idiotic drone music
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2003-12-13 00:10 [#00989227]
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heck, i can't even tell anymore. i don't even know if you're being sarcastic now.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2003-12-13 02:02 [#00989244]
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Windowlicker was in a car advert cant remember which one.
I rekon Boc should do a hardhouse song. mmmmmmmmmmmmm
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-12-13 03:50 [#00989309]
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here in belgium there fucking loads of peoples listening to "idm"....
i think it's just a matter of some place and others, idm is already kind of popular if there so much life on watmm and xltronic, ebay and all...
and i think it's just a matter of time some of them will be even more popular... see BoC, jimmy edgar,...
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dxc
from Latvia on 2003-12-13 04:46 [#00989352]
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Ehhh..
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-12-13 09:09 [#00989465]
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"I hate to say I told you soooooooo!"
I'm sorry I got the hives...
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-12-13 10:27 [#00989528]
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Your avatar is funny! =)
Wrooom!!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-12-13 10:29 [#00989530]
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I walked into the local apple storre the otherr day and got a bad brruise.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2003-12-13 10:32 [#00989535]
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dum dum de dumdumdum de dumdum deee dummm ---dumm dum de
(chorus to hate i told you so) Did you hear that all there songs get sent to them by some guy who lives in caravan somewhere? RANDOM!
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