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Fly Or Die i'm excited. additional details @ i know trent reznor will be happy that the neptunes are playing all the instruments on this album.. he hated the live instrument version of the debut (loved the programmed original), called spymob "shitmob" to one of his engineers who i know/knew i hope lenny kravitz doesn't ruin the song he plays on |
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can but hope i suppose. neptunes are good. will pick this one up. |
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this will come up short like their first album and like andre 3000's and for the same reasons |
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where did you hear that they were working with u2/' |
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The bounce is back .... Change Change your clothes ... |
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I wanna get this.. nice |
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blah, I absolutely hate the neptunes... I don't see why they're are so praised, I just find all their damn music so boring and irritating... and that stupid Pharrell guy should realize he can't sing, and should quit trying too!! just my opinions of course!! :) |
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and now, a moment of silence before the retaliation... |
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i think no matter what andre 3000 and N*E*R*D release you will hate it. why? because you are a poser and you think good taste in music is demonstrated by constantly bashing what everyone else says is creative and high calibre. now funkmaster i have no problem with because he's real. i may not agree w/ his opinions but at least he likes and dislikes music for valid, concrete reasons. it seems like everything you criticize on here, theo, is for social reasons (you want to set yourself apart, or should i say, ABOVE). that's why people can't take you seriously. i know, you could give a damn what we think, right? but you keep coming back so obviously you have something to prove to us. keep putting down good music. where's your critically acclaimed masterpiece album? |
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they're doing something with U2? Hmmm, that might be interesting... even though it's probably just U2 trying to cash in on the Neptunes popularity and reach a younger crowd I wouldn't mind checking that out... |
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"now funkmaster i have no problem with because he's real." I swear I'm not... I'm just a computer program... which could still be real though... hmmm, nevermind! :) thanks though, that's a nice thing to say... :) |
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I think they have began suffering from over exposure/copycat artists, but at the end of the day they have made it on talent, how anyone would want to call them shit just because they got popular is beyond me. Thanks for the heads up on the album. |
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while neptunes' production I dig..N.E.R.D I find a bit hard to handle..Pharrell's vocals can go a bit over the top especially with tthose high pitched falsettos.... but production wise Has anybody else here heard the Dizzee Rascal- Album Boy in Da Corner.... Some of the tracks could belong on a REPHLEX album..those hard and punchy kick drum thangs... |
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Yep the Dizzee Rascal stuff is highly enjoyable...even the rapping is decent, but the production is cool :D |
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haha where did that come from? anyways i won't pick it up.. if i find it on the street nah seriously, i just don't like that nerd and neptunes stuff, kinda annoying as someone mentioned i gotta give'em credit for the title though, pure class, it rhymes and stuff, i wonder how many months it took them to come up with that :P |
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it's named after something their biggest fan said. she has terminal cancer. the album is dedicated to her. |
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where did you read that? |
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"I named it after one of our biggest fans," Williams said. "Her name is Mildred and she has cancer, and the only choice that she has with her spirit is to keep on pushing, to fly or die. And the only thing we [can do] is to find a cure for it." don't barge in on people's topics if all you're going to do is talk shit. don't like the band? then fuck off, no one asked you to share your negative opinion on an album no one's even heard yet. you can go be ignorant and closeminded in an IDM thread. |
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haha how many times has this happened before? you still get angry when someone disagrees with your musical taste? who's closeminded here? aparently you people are only permitted to respond if they like the artist according to you. i'm sorry, i didn't know only positive comments were allowed, it would make release/artist discussion threads and such kinda worthless though wouldn't it? i find the neptunes etc. annoying ('course it's a sliding scale), i'm sorry if i hurt your feelings with that get over it ps. make a lame appreciation thread or something if you want to raise the chance on possitive replies |
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*apparently |
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no. thoughtful comments of any variety i welcome. ignorant put-downs you can save. they don't add anything and it only makes it clear to other people that you don't know what you're talking about. you only posted in this topic so you could give me a hard time over liking this group. obviously you don't have any interest in discussing their music (of which you've probably heard two N*E*R*D songs, if that), you just want to share some ill-formed opinion you made over a year ago and have spit back many times without thinking any further about it. other people can express themselves intelligently and that's why i respect their differing opinions on music. they didn't post to start shit like you did and do on a regular basis when it comes to hip-hop music. you, sir, really are a "Moron." |
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I don't want to start any new shit with you because it all got stupid and boring last time, but you are guilty of ignorant put downs of people yourself. I recall a comment about Aesop Rock which was based solely on the fact that he was white, nothing to do with his music. |
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I don't want to start any new shit with you then don't, and i was taking the piss with the aesop rock comment. let's not spoil this topic nor the "peace" between us. |
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I don't want to start shit either but it really annoys me the way Morton has to say in every single thread about something he doesn't like how he doesn't like it. And that's it. Never any insight into why either, just "Don't like it". Either don't bother or explain yourself better, y'know? |
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OK, cool. Yavo I agree with you there. |
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i want to give you a hard time over liking this group? haha jezus, you really think i care?! ooh and i wasn't aware that i post shit on a regular basis when it comes to hip-hop music actually :) i know you can't wait to link my "am i the only one who doesn't like hip-hop?"-thread now but even that was just a discussion thread about why many people who like idm are also into hiphop, not a "let's get at those damn hip-hop fans" one. i really don't care about what music people like, and i don't want to get at them or 'their' music styles mr titworth now please don't go and ruin you own thread by replying another parade of accusations, i declare the word for today: ontopic |
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I hate rap music!! ;) |
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i can't recall having made such like replies for a long time but it's probably me. it's kinda flattering how you have to interfere or reply to everything i discuss or post on here really. gets old after a while though :) oh damn.. ontopic i said.. |
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Strange, I thought you made one at 11.08 this morning And don't flatter yourself Morton, after all I don't get a hard on when you do it to me. |
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make love, not war... please, I need something erotic to watch!! |
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awesome, been looking forward to this... i've loved almost everything they've touched so far except Beautiful with snoop dogg, but i have issues with snoop i just cant explain... loved their work with justin + britney... i did actually buy justified... got a bit of respect for mr timberlake. now the black eyed peas... i need to rant about, they should be ashamed of themselves!!!! |
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do you have the The Neptunes Present... Clones album? it's a true mixed bag but some of it is really excellent. i love the Fam-Lay track, it's so ghetto. there's a new N*E*R*D song on there that i would like more if it didn't use such an extensive sports metaphor (i'm not into metaphor), but the pharrell/jay-z song "frontin'" is a monster, as is the remix of clipse's "cot damn" (retitled "hot damn"). has a nice variety on the album and hopefully aussies get the bonus dvd that's with the album here. i may never buy justified despite how good the timbaland and 'tunes beats are that i've heard. i actually like justin's singing in moderation (read: every once in a great while i can get into it) but i can't see myself putting it on a lot. prolly download it and see if my mind changes.. justin wanted the neptunes to do a track that sounded like mazzy star & radiohead. i wanna hear the neptunes' new tracks w/ gwen stefani.. her solo album is going to be nice if all goes as planned. i'm not a big fan of no doubt but if you check the f2k link you can see all the good musicians writing and recording with her. anyone else want to post about the article i linked in message #1? as popular and critically acclaimed as the first album was, this one MAY just be even better. |
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Sounds nice. I still like the 1st album alot, but i think some songs suffer because of the 'heavy' guitar sound. Things like rockstar... i hardly like that one at all. I'd love to find the original programmed version someday (i think i'd probably like it better, but ofcourse i'm only guessing when i say something like that), but all i ever find is the new version. Probably because they didn't like the 1st version themselves i guess, no reprints most likely :-( It'll be interesting to hear the new album. I always thought of NERD as a one time only side-project of the neptunes... i certainly wasn't expecting another album :-) Lenny kravitz is a good guitarplayer i think. He just forgot how to write good songs in recent years :-p I think it could work out ok. It's NERD who wrote the song right? he's just playing on it. |
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surrounded, i bet used record stores have the original version of the NERD album.. and you can always download it (i have the original album on my computer, if you have soulseek or FTP i can get it to you). also there's always eBay. judging by the article i linked, i think you can expect less of a rock guitar sound on the new album. spymob are a rock band really so that's why the debut teetered on the edge of rap-metal at times (i still think the live instrument version is brilliant, but i agree it has moments where it's almost a bit much). with pharrell & chad playing everything themselves you can expect more of their own influences like the beatles, curtis mayfield, america, stereolab, led zeppelin, michael jackson/quincy jones, etc. lenny is a good musician for sure. as long as he didn't co-write "Maybe" then 'maybe' it just might be OK :) |
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"used record stores have the original version of the NERD album.." Now there's an idea... I hadn't thought of that yet :-) Thanks, i'll check it out. I consider downloading a last option... if all else fails. I know it's probably all in the mind, and it's just me etc. But I just find myself enjoying music alot more when i have the actual cd. "spymob are a rock band really" Yeah but obviously the neptunes really liked their sound... so who's to say they won't try to sound like spymob with their own instruments? But indeed the article does seem to suggest the new album will be in a somewhat different direction... so i'm hopefull, and curious :-) "so that's why the debut teetered on the edge of rap-metal at times" Yes. Exactly. All those songs are exactly the ones i think are the albums' weak spots. But reading that article, it's almost like they wanted In Search Of to be the complete opposite of their usual neptunes sound... so maybe that explains the rapmetal-ish tracks. I hope they got it out of their system now ;-) |
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i never knew music could be so political....tssk tssk |
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I never understood why they withdrew the first version only to release the seriously crappy 'live instruments' version. Guess 'rock and roll' sells better than 'electronic'. |
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maybe they're trina set themselves "apart" |
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yea they just wanted to do something different.. i mean the neptunes production style has been stale for a couple years now. only about 2 out of 10 tracks they do sound fresh and unique, the rest are pretty much same old. so i really admired them using live instruments. they improved on something that was already great (some of their best "beats" were written for the NERD album). they took a chance and most people (not everyone) agree that it paid off big time. you don't think "run to the sun" sounds better with the live bass and drums? "baby doll" with the surf guitar? |
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SAAAAAWEET! |
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dude.. wrong. that's not me at all. I love the neptunes and I love andre 3000 but their albums fall short because they're incredibly weak lyrically and their attempts to be abstract usually backfire and the pretense comes first and it's incredibly transparent... the andre 3000 album was incomplete.. as was the nerd album.. they both needed a second opinion and tie up the loose ends.. nerd can't be trusted with their tastes alone.. look at the people they've signed (the rock acts) - mind you, the people they work with have commissioned them.. also, there's a song called "thrasher" on the album.. that's a fucking joke. no skater actually refers to themselves as a thrasher.. that's like an x-games, mainstream media term used only by like espn2 and 6th graders.. they're good melodically and as producers.. but pharell is getting more and more irritating and his lyrics are laughable |
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I think you're more of a herb than an authority on anything. I'm not convinced. and you don't fucking know me so don't run your mouth like you do. |
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No, I don't think it sounds better at all :) |
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yeah I picked up the Clones..and enjoyed most of the tracks on there.. Titsworth you being the hip hop expert could you check out and rate this guy.. he is a bit of a local hero..he's won several International Turntabalist Comps before he turned his hand at producing...I quite like his stuff...especially his turntabalist chops are quite..astounding...he is currently masterminding the work of a local rapper called both the album and the single has been number 1 here for a several weeks..a bit of an achievement since our charts are so totally dominated by the American and UK stuff. In particular the single "Not Many-The Remix" is the catchiest mother fucker and shows off some quite admirable rapping skills... but that's just me..hence I am seeking your opinion.. cheers |
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I was thinking about replying but I decided to read the response first. Good thing I did so forget about replying, somebody's got some serious issues in here..... |
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i really don't mind most of the instruments/ musical programming, and pharell is a decent singer, if you are into that sort of thing, but one thing that always irritates me is how the beats always sound the same to me.. they seem to never change it up.. they just seem to put different sounds into the same beat-template.. not that they aren't skilled in making that type of music.. it's just that if there were willing to experiment a bit more with the beats, and maybe give some of them a bit more variation or different time signatures or something, instead of just using that same "kick - - snare - - pause - - kick-snare" thing that seems to be on so many of their songs, and from other artists seemingly trying to copy their sound.. if they were to change it up a bit more and challenge the listener a bit more.. i'd give them more of a chance.. it'd be refreshing to hear something from them without that instantaneous-lock-on bop-your-head kinda repetitive beat.. but i suppose that is their trademark.. ah well.. this was just my two useless, rusty pennies.. |
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hi flea, i'm listening to some audio on the p-money site. i like it :) "remember" productionwise is quite enjoyable, not anything groundbreaking or complex but definitely well executed. kind of rza-esque in some ways, but half the speed and relaxing. scribe definitely has some skills lyrically and for a white(-looking) guy from oz he does a black new york rapper perfectly (on "remember" anyway). Q4Z2X, i definitely agree with you on the beats, they've grown stale. i think the NERD album had some of their best work though and i wouldn't be surprised if they've saved more gems for the follow-up, especially since it covers so many genres according to that article. i think part of the issue is they make extreme/"out there" beats for rappers and singers and they get turned down. that's what the debut album was: the best beats they made for other people that got rejected. a lot of commercial artists want a "#1 hit" so they want it so sound like the last #1 they made, whether it was for britney, jay-z, mystikal, snoop, whoever. but when you're workers for hire like the neptunes you can't really argue with the artist's decision. i think that's why the justin timberlake album is so popular, even with indie/"underground" crowds, justin was actually willing to take some of their more experimental and different sounding beats. another thing i read was a couple years ago someone went up to pharrell and said he loved their sound; pharrell asked what sound?, the kid does this easy immitation of a kick--snare like you said, and then pharrell says in the interview that from that day on the neptunes dropped the sound that the kid made because they didn't want to box themselves in. i still think they do have a formula but at least they're conscious of recycling elements and try to phase them out. if you want to give them a chance to surprise you i bet this upcoming NERD album will be full of detours from their usual sound. |
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I like Quasimoto... I really want to get his album, the unseen is it? I just love that song Come on Feet, it's probably one of the most interesting rap songs I've heard... I've listened to it so much, and just need to get the album sometime... see, I don't HATE rap, I just don't particularly love it as a whole... there are some songs I really love and stuff... and I own a few albums which I like... maybe I need to start downloading more stuff... |
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haha, that post had nothing to do with the thread really I guess... sorry! :) |
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i like this album quite a bit...i think it's great! and i don't even like outkast (actually i totally dislike it)...which is weird since some people compare these two bands... |
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