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i would... i fucking hate working 9-5, 6 days a week... i dont think its a principle thing either, the world is a fucked up place, in which money increases your quality of life... sucks yeah, i wouldnt like it, but i'd like to make a living. if i ever get to the point where making music pays the bills, THEN ill worry about my principles.. |
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Ditto... Especially if it was some old track you'd done 2 years ago and now thought was rubbish. If someone turned up on my doorstep and offered me a million for full copyright control of all my old tracks I'd give it to them in an instant. This isn't to say I make music to make money, far from it... but if music I make for myself and people online like yourselves can be sold that's dandy. |
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what principles and morals are you people talking about...specifically; non of this vague "selling your soul to corporations"...exactly, what moral is that offending. Do you have a specific don't-sell-your-music principle. |
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The principle which grew from the realisation that the Consumer-based Corporate West systematically fucks over regular people, fucks over the environment, and fucks over other countries, just to have increased profit margins nad increased control over everybody. Seems like most of you have been bought, spiritually and physically. I will continue to fight for my personal freedom, both spiritual and temporal, and will fight for the freedom of others. Label me what you will, just know you have lost. |
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blurgh |
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let's finish this by putting it this way: which is the worst betrayal of yourself: 1. giving a big commercial corporation one of your tunes in exchange for a large sum of cash, or 2. spending the rest of your life working for a big corporation by tidying up the washing-powder shelves by 6pm, day-in, day-out, with nothing to keep you happy but your shitty wage packet, your barely-afforded second hand juno 106, and your high-and-mighty principles? |
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.·. there are more than two choices .·. |
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the red pill or the blue pill... |
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On a game soundtrack its a different matter. Its part of an artistic creation as opposed to just being slapped on for a quick fix as like in the adverts. Trent's work on Quake is a good example as is the soundtracks on games like Ghost In the Shell and Wipeout where some of the songs were actually commissioned. Even the most extremely independent artists like Neubauten and Coil have created music to be used for commercials. What irritates me and drives me to the mute button (which I strongly recommend doing to keep the sanctity of your favorite piece of music) is when a corporation like Burger King or MacDonalds commission some hack to write knockoff versions of "Hip" sound. It makes me want to throw the remote through the TV screen. |
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So marlowe, how do you pay the bills? |
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nr 1. definitely |
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i would sell out in a second if the price was right. i might produce under a different name or something but YO! i gotta get PAID! this starving artist shit is hella bull shit. hella. |
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marlowe: i shall call you "zealot". ...in every way i've seen so far. no really why are you so angst-up, take a chill pill, read a porn novel, masterbate, kill a dove in reparation. |
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get your head out of your rightous ass, you inflamatory dolt |
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Fuck you and fuck your guilt-projection, Scup Bucket. Nothing I've said is false... the Western Culture is corrupt and fake and manipulated by suited fucks who prey on the weaknesses of people... Some people don't accept this mode of living and will fight against it. Others will crumble and snipe at those who give a damn and will ACT on their principles. |
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acting on "principles" is what caused the crusades. and "western culture" is a culture like every other culture; corruption is a very common problem in any society. i think, if i understand what you are saying, you may be thinking more like me than you think. i do not accept this society. People are set in their ways and think they are better off than others; they think their society is "good". that's why i plan on moving away SOON, to a place without a giant body ruling over me. Without a government/corporation (same thing) brainwashing everyone into thinking they're happy. but i also get a bad vibe when you say "acting on principles". you seem to be an extremist version of me, blinded by rage. |
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01) The Crusades were not based on any pure Principle. 02) Western Culture is not a culture like every other - it specialises in assimiliating what is good about other cultures and then systematically raping the soul of it until only an empty husk is left. 03) The Western Corporations have their eyes set on the Globe. Moving away will only appear to temporarily solve YOUR problems (and running away is a very selfish act), but in the long run, it will only be the worse for you. 04) Please do not call me an "extremist version of me", it's extremely patronising and condescending. 05) If you HAD read any recent posts of mine, you would know I am motivated by LOVE, not hate. |
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1.) "05)" in your last message made no sense when compared to your recent posts, which were very unloving. 2.) moving away IS selfish, you are right...i suppose it is selfish to want happiness. 3.) EVERYTHING you say seems to be an attack on everyone else. I am not the patronising, condescending asshole; only to unreasonable, biased, condescending, patronising, morally-reassured jerk faces. 4.) many westerners wish the people representing us would stop expanding. and MANY of them are acting against them, only to remain uncovered by the media and/or shot down by them. 5.) "pure" is a buffer word, therefore your argument means nothing. christianity as a base for ones principles is not unheard of. (oops i went backwards.) |
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So again, how do you pay your bills Marlowe? |
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he's a prostitute. |
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aren't we all? |
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"no i'm not a prostitute i've got principles. i wont sell my body for money. heck i wont even sell my music. That's just morally wrong" some people just need to learn to share |
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01) Selfishness is exactly what is not needed to combat the current situation concerning the Western Capitalist Mentality. 02) The Crusades were mostly about enlarging European Royal Power bases, not about selflessly trying to enlighten the middle easterners. As I said before, call me whatever you wish to call me--I am not interested in the excuses you make ot yourself to make you feel more comfortable with yourself. WeatheredStoner - I look after Children in a poor area of town. Aside from that, I am working on moving to mexico in two years together with a few other individuals I've been in contact with, where we plan to implement certain plans. |
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you seem like a pretty shady guy. i hope you dont kill anyone. |
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don't bother responding, you make me sick. |
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It's nausea caused by contemplating your self, not me, schmuck. |
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everyone's just jealous because we Americans are so totally awsome. the self-rightous global community is trying to be just as awsome as us, but we are far more skilled at being awsome than they are. america is totally bitchin'! |
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nope, wrong again, its you. |
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perhaps in an indirect sense, like "i'm human, he's human, he sucks, therefore i suck" kinda way. |
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No, in a "I'm scum and cannot face having the mirror held up to me" kind of way. |
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assuming i hate myself, does that make my assumed hate for you any less hatefull. basically, you are using this "you dont hate me, you hate yourself" statement as a way to dismiss all that i say(or anyone else says) and increase the assuredness in your perfectly biased views. so..."everything you say bounces off me and sticks to you" what i want to run away from is aggressive people (like you) who insist that their views are the only correct views and that nobody else has anything worthwhile to say. |
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Yes, when they commision someone to write "ad music" in the style of whatever's in at the moment... that's just cheap. At least they could buy the rights to use the original they're copying :-/ |
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ceri, what drukqs songs were in what commercial...? |
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or was it not you that said that? |
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Kesson Daslef was used to advertise "girl cops" a series on sky one (not too long after drukqs was out). There's been another one since that used Jynweythek Ylow as well, but I can't remember what it was advertising. Both were for programs rather than products. "Life of Grime" has used Gwely Mernans at least twice too. |
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see if i saw those i would freak out in a happy way. i never expect anything in the media to connect remotely to what i like, so far i've never come across anything (i guess you englishmen have) |
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No, I was dismissing your pointless name/description calling of me. people are nauseated and offended because their own limits are reached and thus challenged. It is your own personal hang-up if I sicken you. |
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I'd sell my soul for a donut right now!! |
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i've reached my limit of bullshit and i feel like dropping this meaningless argument. thanks alot. not only am i sick (whether or not it was from you or not, i actually got sick), but now i have to poop. |
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the thing that makes me upset in these arguments is that i can never ever make the person i'm arguing with feel any differently, no matter how hard i try. |
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that is my limitation. |
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I'm not surprised you reached your limitation so swiftly. |
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i'm not surprised you responded with a jerk-off comment like that, cleetus. |
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Don't you have a bucket you should be puking the shrapnel from your soul into? |
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clever, makes sense too! good thing you think about subjects so thoroughly. |
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The Irony is that your attempt at Irony failed because it wasn't actually ironic. |
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oh sorry i'll be more of a stabing asshole next time. |
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i'm tired and bored, lets continue our meaningless, anti-progressive arguments in future threads (or perhaps not, which would be great). THE END. |
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