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offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-10 07:00 [#00984741]
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OKOKOK
My question is
"What the fuck is the difference between a flat and a
sharp?"

I mean as far as I know D# is Eb, F# is Gb etc etc etc.

Seeing as I've never had a lesson in music in my life and
can barely even understand what thge fuck 5ths and 4ths are
(and also I'm just plain mentally retarded), can someone
give me a breif explanation?

Why aren't all notes just (letter) or (letter)#?

Oh also Pro(xy) (you guys'd probably know him too) was
telling me that an F can also be called an E#. What the
fuck?

Please tell me he's wrong so I can go and snicker at his
beard and glasses ensemble
:D

(j/k he's a top bloke)


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-12-10 07:03 [#00984743]
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apparantly there's a difference when you're able to make
that singing or playing violin or whatever, a D# is higher
than a Eb


 

offline japes from Suriname on 2003-12-10 07:05 [#00984745]
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Pro(xy) is right.

As far as the flat thing goes, you can have a tune in Eb
minor which is essentially the same as D# minor, they just
use Eb minor because it "feels" more like E. Basically flats
are complete bollocks and utterly useless.

Hope this helps.


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-12-10 07:06 [#00984747]
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so in germany Bb is called B and B H, that blows my mind


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2003-12-10 07:08 [#00984749]
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what does Ae sound like?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-12-10 07:09 [#00984751]
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You sandpapered your CD before you put in the player.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-10 07:12 [#00984755]
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Well I can tell you we have a beer in Australia called EB
And it doesn't taste very good - especially flat ;-)



 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-10 07:13 [#00984758]
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no. D# is not higher then Eb.

At least not in our standard tunning system.

just a different name for the same pitch.

flats are not complete bollox.

the majority of western music is based on triad
structures....

for instance, a C major chord is C, E, G. All thirds away
from each other.

Thats just how it is...

now, lets say you want a C Minor chord... the correct
spelling is C, Eb, G. Technically, C, D#, G is the same
thing... but not in terms of theory and harmonic function.

And yes, in Germany Bb is B, and B is H.

Hence Bachs "Art Of Fugue" where he spells his name in the
melody, a few bars before he dies. (he died before
completing the peice, but it is still performed.)


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-12-10 07:16 [#00984760]
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Yeah it's what that Zues guy said


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-12-10 07:16 [#00984762]
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i thought he did that a lot of times
i learned it should be higher though, when it's just a choir
or violin it can be. anywho the tuning we have now probably
kicked it out


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-10 07:19 [#00984766]
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Yeah thanks ppl I'm slowly learneding!

Zeus - ahh nice one man, knew I could count on ya.

I guess that as long as they're a diff name for the same
thing (and therefore I guess frequency wise the same thing)
I shouldn't need to worry about it.

Cheers! :)


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-12-10 07:23 [#00984771]
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but just a interpretation sounding like little bit
anywho: go here when you want to spell your name
in music, i like the guys name in chromatic


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-12-10 07:38 [#00984794]
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no prob :)


 


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