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offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-12-09 22:09 [#00984239]
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Does anyone have experience with this drug?
i do now... just got it prescribed for my "mild ADD"

........i have never been as absorbed in school as when im
on dex.....

its dexamphetamine..... which means its basically just
amphetamines - speed
but it affects ppl w/ ADD differently than most... instead
of making you hyper it makes you FOCUSED like a fucking
laser..... instead of thinking about tons of things at once,
and jumping from one thing to another, your brain just stays
focused on whatever you want, 100% (this lasts a few hours
for me with a 5mg pill)
it basically makes you better at everything... i sort of
feel like its cheating

anyways its still amphetamines, a stimulant...
after those few hours, (for me) it makes you more
aggressive, more accute/allert, think faster, and makes it
impossible to sleep... ....the US gives amphetamines to
figher pilots for these reason
(the pilots who bombed Canadians in Afghanistan were on "go
pills"... this resulted in some controversy over its use)

so anyways whats your experience with dex, or with speed?

a friend of mine was telling a pharmacology student that hes
prescribed dexamphetamines for ADD... and she was like
"what?? are you sure???..... thats basically, exactly,
street speed"
well its methoamphetamine (or something like that).. so its
a little different, and it usually has other shit in it to
make you happy and what not


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-12-09 22:11 [#00984244]
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think of it this way, ADD isn't a disorder or anything, it's
just a collection of symptoms.

more plainly, it's not physiological, or nuerological as far
as anyone can tell, so drugs for ADD is, IMO a placebo at
best.

I know it works, but taking speed would work to, you aren't
fixing the problem, just masking it.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-12-09 22:16 [#00984245]
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yeah thats hwo i think of it... just a collection of
'symptoms'

anyways im not interested in 'fixing the problem' of having
ADD... i dont care, i like the way i think
i want to solve the problem of not being able to concentrate
on work, which dex does.

and just cus ADD isn't 'real' doesn't mean dex is a
plecebo..... amphetamines are a pretty real drug.... its
not my imagination that it makes me focus like never before
plus they test these things againts REAL placeboes (ie
surgar pills that actually have no affect on your brain)


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-12-09 22:19 [#00984250]
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I kind of contradicted myself there, I'll clarify.

I have no doubt it affects you, and that it works to help
you study. The placebo I refered to was that it was
"fixing" your ADD.

If you don't care about that, at least you aren't being
duped like lots of kids.

However, I had some of the problems you did, and I payed for
my ass to talk to a psychologist for a couple of times, did
some Cognative Behavioral Therapy.

Well, I conentrate just fine, because I talked about my
goals, and what I wanted to do, and when you know that, you
just do the shit you need to, no matter how hard it was to
study before.

Don't let them drug you dood.


 

offline happy cycling from berlin on 2003-12-09 23:03 [#00984275]
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right -- i think it's incorrect to dinstinguish the effects
of speed based on add-diagnosis of user.. i've abused it
several times and it makes me crazy focused as well.. it's a
well documented effect at lower dosages.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2003-12-09 23:14 [#00984280]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker



nevermind what ADD is, the problem is that lots of us have
this *collection of symptoms* and from what AMinal says, i
think i may be able to finish school now!
any more light to shed on how i may be able to get some?
like maybe a local doctors note?


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2003-12-09 23:16 [#00984281]
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ive been a depressed druggy sitting at the comp making music
all day, ive spent all the money i made from working this
summer on dope and booze, and now im at rock bottom, to be
honest xltronic sorta keeps me going, that and making music.
i havent gone to school in 3 months and it pains me to see
everyone living normal lives when i should be doing the
same.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-09 23:19 [#00984284]
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That sucks things aren't going great for you, but maybe it
wouldn't be better to solve your problem with drugs with yet
another drug..


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2003-12-09 23:22 [#00984287]
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Remember dex drives?


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2003-12-09 23:24 [#00984288]
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well im trying to get off drugs and i am, tho im crashing
right now and i feel like going out and buying some more..
all i really want is to finish school, that way i wont be a
TOTAL failure.

and about the Dex Drive, i used to make levels in Tenchu 2
(ps) and upload them onto my old site with my duke nukem
levels. good times had by all :)


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-09 23:26 [#00984291]
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those things kicked ass! my friend had one for his
Playstation and you could all sorts of cool cheats and saves
for your games with it.. wonder why they never really caught
on?


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-09 23:28 [#00984293]
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you could make levels for a playstation game? dude that
kicks ass!


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-12-09 23:33 [#00984300]
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Ive used this drug many times in my past.

we used to take the time release caps off of them, seperate
the sugar balls from the dex ones and add them to our
slurpee's/soda and drink away, .... good speed. clean
stuff.

dont use it too much though, as it will eventually change
you a bit.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2003-12-09 23:40 [#00984312]
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yeah, Tenchu 2 is a great playstation game and the build
editor can consume a large portion of your life ;P


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-12-10 11:30 [#00985087]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to Gwely Mernans: #00984280



talk to your doctor.... or, talk to a doctor who specializes
in ADD

im in first year university.. and im only starting to do
work now (end of the first term), cus i have dex now.... if
i didn't go to this doctor i would be severely fucked over
right now, as i have been in the past
see i could get by till now without doing any work (in
highschool)...


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-12-10 11:31 [#00985090]
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thats interesting... can you describe how?


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-10 21:26 [#00985996]
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WTF is dexadrine the same as dexamphetamine now?

man I eat dexxies a bit, every couple of weeks they replace
speed as the thing (when we can get them). they're really
good, 10 will keep you up and awake all night no matter how
stoned you get :P


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-12-10 21:27 [#00985997]
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dexedrine is the reason there is a 'drug war' and why
cocaine is illegal


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-10 21:30 [#00986000]
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as for changing you as far as I can guess it'd be the same
as any phets change you - make you a little aggressive, lack
of patience etc etc etc


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-12-10 21:32 [#00986001]
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and blatant echo is wrong.. there is a neurochemical basis
upon which all studies in this disorder (I'm still a little
tentative about calling it that.. but only because of the
ubiquity of it and how overdiagnosed it is) function.
dexedrine is obviously a stimulant,, but it stimulates also
ones focus and channels energy/focus rather than having it
divided up on a frist come-first served kind of chaos... it
does seem weird that they'd prescribe legal speed for a
hyperactivity disorder.. but it does serve a direct purpose
in properly appropriating attention


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-10 21:44 [#00986007]
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so....dexadrine IS dexamphetamine?

fuck me.

but i can vouch for that - it DOES make you focussed liek
hell - I eat them and if nothing is happening I'll end up
making really detailed music or drawing for hours


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-12-10 22:05 [#00986032]
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last I read, MRIs showed a possible increase in glutamate
and lower than normal levels of GABA.

soooooo, you could be right, though all these kids were
poping Ritalin for their ADD.

---------
On an related note, I'd love someone to explain how all of a
sudden this has come up.

I mean, either A) AD/HD just mutated into the physicology of
humans for some reason about 30 years ago, or

B) humans are being asked to do things that are bringing
this "normal" annomoly to light in a way that people
consider it a disorder


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-10 22:09 [#00986037]
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as far as i'm concerned it's (ADD) a scapegoat for bad
parenting.

or things like child not eating and exercising properly.

i could be wrong though

I'm not complaining either though coz i like taking all
their meds!


 

offline faaip_de_oiad from Sirius (United States) on 2003-12-11 01:17 [#00986120]
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I've been addicted to methamphetamine for about 5 years now,
so I can relate to your situation Gwely. My life is fucked
up too, because of it.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-12-11 09:13 [#00986513]
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lol


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-12-11 20:29 [#00987634]
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A) is like saying prostate cancer only started to exist once
it was 'discovered' by the medical community and given the
name 'prostate cancer'
.....or "scientificized", which i think is a pretty cool
sounding word

B) is pretty interesting
we didn't evolve to sit in a chair 8 hours a day
but then again..... give us a few million years and maybe we
will


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-11 23:07 [#00987665]
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good point, man, but i still think a lot of kids who
misbehave through bad parenting are diagnosed as ADD and are
fed pills.

As I stated earlier this point is purely elementary as I'm
all for dexxies being in existance. I actually found a bunch
in my bag a min ago and I'm gonna eat them tonight and make
a whoile bunch of CDs and make tracks tonight instead of
going out :P


 


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