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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-09 03:13 [#00982913]
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I heard yesterday that we have one of the 7 most hard to learn languages.
Did you heard anythiung in Polish ? what do you think about it ?
* ecnadniarb is watched *
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-09 03:15 [#00982915]
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You just add ski on the end of every word to make polish.
Seeski whatski Iski meanski.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 03:16 [#00982916]
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perhaps i'd understand some words
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tallyho
from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2003-12-09 03:16 [#00982919]
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dzen dobry!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 03:16 [#00982920]
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hahaha, you took lessons didnt you?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-09 03:18 [#00982924]
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Yes 23 years hard study :D
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-09 03:19 [#00982926]
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wow , what i can see !
you speek very nice.
tolsto : yeah, probably because you live not so far , all slovian are similar in some way , isnt it ?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 03:24 [#00982931]
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you're not confusing slovenia and slovakia are you? cos slovenia is pretty far i'd say :)
yeah, im sure we have lots of similarities in our languages, i think i understand a whole lot more of czech than i do polish...its quite weird actually, apperantly russians can understand slovenian pretty well and i cant understand anything in russian...but i can understand serbian very good and serbs mostly cant understand slovenian, while they can understand lots of russian...quite confusing actually :)
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2003-12-09 03:26 [#00982932]
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hm, finnish is pretty high up there too, i believe.
en usko että kukaan teistä ymmärtää tästä mitään.
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2003-12-09 03:27 [#00982933]
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do you have some kind of list of that btw, hyakusen?
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tallyho
from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2003-12-09 03:27 [#00982934]
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not sure about slovenian actually ;)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 03:28 [#00982935]
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it doesnt make any sense to me heh... i think if i watched a japanese and a finnish film i'd understand the japanese better :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 03:30 [#00982937]
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its what i have been told by some russian girl...it seemed normal to her if i'd speak slovenian and she'd speak russian...tho i had no idea of what we were talking about :)
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-09 03:32 [#00982938]
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i can easily understand russian, czech to. i dont have list - i just heard that japanese is 1 , then polish on 4-5 place .
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2003-12-09 03:33 [#00982940]
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yep, finnish language doesn't really have any close relatives apart from estonian.. and it has fairly complicated grammar.
i said 'i don't think that any of you understands any of this'
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 03:35 [#00982941]
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haha, i cant relate a single word...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 03:36 [#00982942]
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people who are trying to learn slovenian say most difficult is the dual form and all those cases...
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-09 03:37 [#00982943]
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finland can understand estonian. estonian- the same with lithuania lithuania - russian russian-polish polish- czech czech-slovania
and the circle is going on.....
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-09 03:39 [#00982944]
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but polich cant understand germans - and germans too. this is border not to pass
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-12-09 03:42 [#00982947]
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yep because we all know what happened last time.
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2003-12-09 03:46 [#00982950]
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i (and most finns) can't really understand estonian... just some words and sayings here and there.. and it's weird that some shared words mean different things...
it's more common that estonian people understand finnish... it seems it's easier that way round.. or maybe they just put more effort learning it.
and is estonian language really related to lithuanian? or does the estonian folks understand it because many of them read/speak russian too?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-09 03:49 [#00982952]
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no , these 3 countries have related languages. it is not to easy to see, but like you say - here and there.
and by the way - it wasnt my country who started this border crossing :
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 03:53 [#00982955]
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come on now...its a well known fact poland invaded germany
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2003-12-09 03:54 [#00982956]
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ok, it must be that lithuanian is related to estonian, but not to finnish i think.
i've never heard of it and i've seen quite a lot of the charts and such about the relations & origins of finnish/fenno-ugric languages..
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-09 04:00 [#00982958]
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oh yes , we should do this is nearest future
and well m aybe i went to far with estonian-finnish.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 04:03 [#00982959]
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how abour finnish and hungarian? any simmilarities between these two?
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fat kaimo
from Finland on 2003-12-09 04:14 [#00982967]
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finnish - hungarian, related: both fenno-ugric... but so distant that really can't understand each other... still i believe it is the closest after estonian. of official/big languages anyway;
there are some small minority groups in the ex-soviet area that speak languages much closer, but they are dying pretty much.. mari, hanti... hm, can't really remember..
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diablo
on 2003-12-09 05:15 [#00983034]
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My Polish:
Dobre pivo! Tak Tak!
Kourva...
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2003-12-09 07:19 [#00983097]
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i know some polish words:
dupa kurwa
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_user
from rostov-on-don (Russia) on 2003-12-09 07:23 [#00983103]
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seeski :D
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_user
from rostov-on-don (Russia) on 2003-12-09 07:24 [#00983104]
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most slavic languages sounds for me like distorted russian
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-12-09 07:34 [#00983122]
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Finnish has it's own branch on the language tree, as far as I can remember.
Finnish/Ugrish languages I think
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-12-09 07:35 [#00983123]
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ugric, sorry - and disregard my post
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2003-12-09 07:41 [#00983128]
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finnish definitely sounds really strange, cool language though and i'm sure it's really difficult to learn. i find swedish kind of hard...mostly because of the damn intonation.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-12-09 07:43 [#00983131]
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so, you're not swedish??
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_user
from rostov-on-don (Russia) on 2003-12-09 07:44 [#00983132]
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kylma massa puhdistus teurastamo luotain moottori
.........panasonic is the best finnish group, imho
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naaic
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2003-12-09 07:45 [#00983133]
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nej
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-12-09 08:50 [#00983178]
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I saw a few words when I were over there.. don't have a fucking clue as to what they mean...
Zloty (Zlote, Zlotych) Wjazd Pjazd Wulkanovicja
Then there are the ones I (think I) know what mean, but I'm not sure about the spelling... you've got lots of curls on your letters:
Niegazovana (water without bubbles) Gazovana (water with bubbles) Sklep (shop?) Opaki (buddies, pals?) Resturancja (Restaurant) Chin Dobre (hello)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 08:56 [#00983189]
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shit, thats way more simmilar to italian than slovenian :)
are you sure those words are polish? :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-12-09 09:00 [#00983195]
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Ya.. either that, or I spent an entire week in Italy...
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-09 09:01 [#00983196]
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Zloty - gold ( polish money ) Wjazd - enter Pojazd - car Wulkanizacja - place to change tears in car Sklep - shop Chlopaki- buddies Resturacja - restaurant hello - hard to say, maybe you should spell it like chien dobry hehe , i dont know - you should try
few mistakes , but amazingly good, brawo !!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 09:03 [#00983197]
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hahaha...well, you'd usually notice roman ruins in italy
isnt zloty their currency? i think it is, im not sure tho...could also mean gold or something
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 09:03 [#00983198]
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im a bit late here...but i was right on zloty!!!!
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-09 09:04 [#00983199]
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it is currency
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-09 09:05 [#00983200]
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yup
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 09:08 [#00983204]
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here's how we call those things in slovenian:
Zloty - gold - zlato Wjazd - enter - vstop/vhod Pojazd - car - avto Wulkanizacja - place to change tears in car - vulkanizacija (isnt this an internatioanl expression??)
Sklep - shop - trgovina Chlopaki- buddies - prijatelji Resturacja - restaurant - restavracija
quite simmilar actually :)
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-09 09:12 [#00983208]
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hah - similar as fuck - listen to other polish meanings of these words ( we have many )
avto - auto trgovina - targowisko prijatelji - przyjaciele
i think that we could understand eachother :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-12-09 09:13 [#00983212]
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Ya. But while I were in Poland, I noticed lots of strange food.. can you further explain the social status of these foods (commonly consumed, newly introduced, and so-on)? (and remember: I'm not saying norwegian food isn't strange sometimes, but still.. i'm wondering about this food)
Banana-apple-orange-carrot-juice. Orange & carrot-juice. (Why does carrot seem to come with EVERYTHING?) 95% liquor in the stores ("Spiritys" or something) Ketchup-chips. Cheese-chips. The purple stuff we got served everywhere.. mostly with carrot on the side..
All the "zloty"-groceries (sausages, beer, and so-forth, that you can get for only a zloty)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 09:19 [#00983221]
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apperantly we could...but it looks much easier in writing, well perhaps if you'd speak slowly :)
how about those vegetable, fruit names drunken mastah just named?
banana=banana apple=jabolko orange=pomaranèa carrot=korenje juice=so sausage=klobasa beer=pivo
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-12-09 09:19 [#00983222]
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Banana-apple-orange-carrot-juice - mixed juice - what should i explain ?
carrot is popular , but it is not with everything - :) in polish :
"sok jabloko-marchewkowo-pomaranczowo-babanowy"
liquors ? simple vodka , we have plenty , polish ppl's drink more vodka than beer
chips - frytki with ketchup - z keczupem with cheese - z serem
purple stuff ? probably you mean lettuce of somr kind
and you cant buy anything for zloty - to buy beer you will need 3 zlote for example. for 1 you can buy 2-3 pack of matches
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