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i downloaded something by philip glass today, 'einstein at the beach' i dont know :/ it has a lot of voices thrown over nice melodies.. its driving me insane, making me feel uneasy but i cant stop listening to it. anyway, what is other good stuff by him? i dont know anything about him, exept for the icct hedral orchestration. |
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REICH IS BETTTTTER |
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ok, i dont care much whats good stuff by reich then? |
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everything! Drumming is nice 18 musicians too (tits wrote a paper comparing it to SAW2 you might want to look at) Just download 'Works' on slsk |
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well, get the score for koyaanisqatsi!!! |
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by reich, different trains w/pat methany(sp) by glass, i like his 3 violin concertos (performed by kronos quartet) though glass is not that great.... |
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check arne nordheim as well...not as popular as he should be imo |
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cant download everything :) im queued for drumming... |
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I love you, TonyFish. |
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naaah, go for City Life. you'll like it - he uses quite a few samples in that, in a great way. |
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Philip Glass' LOW SYMPHONY is very good! I'd strongly recommend the LS work if you want to hear some good Glass. |
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ooo yesyesyes I forgot that one "It's been a honeymoon! I can't take it no more!" |
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get the score for koyaanisqatsi and the video (is there a dvd?) for koyaanisqatsi. |
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there is DVD but hard to find - i advice e-bay. althoug there no 100% that you wil get it - it a masterpiece - just like old Kurosawa films |
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Yes! City Life is great. I just heard City Life and Different Trains live. Excellent. If you like Glass, Reich and Nordheim, you probably like Terry Riley and Riuichy Sakamoto too. |
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different trains is not with pat metheny, electric counterpoint is. ill see that live saturday btw. i like early glass best, at the moment, so that's this cd i have with music in contrary motion and 2 pages and in similar motion. also on standard symphonies, second symphony, second part mostly, that's very stardard but very good melodies, like icct hedral, maybe. second on my glass list is and always will be the dracula soundtrack with the kronos quartet. einstein on the beach sounds like shitty 80s stuff to me btw. reich on the other hand seems to get better in time. still: i'd listen to the counterpoints (violin especially), that's real minimalism like those early glass things. furthermore i liked sextet and desert music when i heard those the other day during the reich festival :) im sorry i missed the documentary on city life yesterday, because that had the whole piece performed in it, or played back. i did see the cave though, that was great too. reich is pretty much an american: the way he walks, his baseball hat and he hugged the conductor (rheinbert de leeuw) after the performance i saw, that was fun. during the performance he was sitting behind the mixer btw, that was fun too: he's just a nerd like us :) |
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I heard they performed New York Counterpoint last week using samples of clarinets. what a dumb idea. :( |
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what's it originally than? all that tape stuff is like samples anyway? wasnt it the original instrument now done by clarinets? i didnt really like tehemin, what's it called, by the way. if im going to see minimalism i want just that, apparantly, the cave sure was that, also it was only 3 euro's with my pauperpass |
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ooooooh, I dig "einstein at the beach" one two three four one two three four |
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hi tonyfish thanks for giving my Reich/SAW2 paper a mention.. for those who'd like to (re)read it, go here: Works Vol. 2 and Steve Reich's Music for 18 Musicians |
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interesting link |
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great essay |
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thanks.. i got an A on it, it's one of the things i'm most proud of |
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koyaanisqatsi isnt too hard to get...i got both, score and dvd at our local record shop |
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it is written to be played by 9 clarinets and 3 bass-clarinets. but since this can pose a problem, what has been done a lot is one real clarinet and the rest recorded to tape. this is still very different to completely sampled and played on keyboard - whoosh! gone is intonation and subtlety. on a keyboard you can only really differ in volume - that's it. |
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i used to write essays and public speeches on aphex twin discussing his ambient music in class. i always got As and everyone didnt know what the fuck i was talking about. |
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haha.. yea for this essay we also had to do a 10 minute presentation.. since it was a music theory class everyone got the basic idea but i got the feeling that what i was playing was a revelation to almost the whole class (of about 13) you might also enjoy the history of IDM paper on the same web page.. it's very scholarly and well researched in my opinion |
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sometimes im startled by how much i have in common with the members of this messageboard. |
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that's what keeps me coming back.. and when i realize how little i have in common with the people who post most often, that's when i stop posting for a bit |
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yes, i see, it was keyboard than. that's the exact same setting as electric counterpoint, only that was with 9 electric guitars and 3 basses, yes? i didnt know that was ever done with all those live. the violin phase (which i meant earlier instead of counterpoints) surely hasnt been done live, i mean those very slightly changing parts? |
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well, it is shit-hard to do. so mostly it is done on tape. but you need a real instrument to give it the depth it deserves. |
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My mommy is getting me the Three Tales DVD for xmas. Arrrggg must resist searching house for another 2 weeks! |
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i thought violin part was written specifically for one violin player and some tape recorder(s?) designed to playback in a loop (effectively a delay unit).... |
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it'll be worth it. :) |
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me too, that's why i was surprised by qrter saying the clarinet thing can be done by 12 clarinets live, because i thought those counterpoints were meant for tape with one live performance too |
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damnit qrter, dont reply at the same time when im replying to bremzen ill see three tales saturday. i thought the cave kicked ass too, any opinions? |
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USE THE FOLLOWUP BUTTON, YOU!! haven't seen/heard the cave yet. well, heard parts of it, and it seems to be the same procedé they used for Three Tales. I ordered The Cave on cd. :) |
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is there a dvd too, guess not, just the music might get a bit boring the follow up dont work in most of my browsers, i dont have 30mb to run my netscape so im using explorer 4.5 in which i can hardly read this |
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I heard some extracts of The Cave from CD 10 of Works. Interesting stuff. I didn't know there was a DVD of that. hmmm looks like it's gonna be a very Reichy christmas :) |
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no, there isn't. just the full cd. but I'll have that anyway. :) |
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I'm not sure, I haven't listened to the extracts enough yet. *puts headphones on* :) |
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I'm fascinated by this form of music theatre - the documentary style is a real new slant. and I only discovered a few days ago that Beryl Korot, who made the video's for both The Cave and Three Tales is actually married to Reich. |
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how about that! |
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on the subject of Glass, Reinbert de Leeuw, the leader of the Schönberg Ensemble (who have worked a lot with Reich), has said how he dislikes how people mention Glass and Reich together. he thinks Reich is much more interesting, Glass just repeating the same little trick over and over. I must say I agree. |
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yeah, but i still like glass better, maybe somewhat more expressive and the mood im searching for i dont think you can find one thread, in the many, here in which only one of the two is discussed.. i dont know this Nordheim fella, im afraid, is he good? |
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Can't say Glass ever really moved me or even sparked any interest although I have really tried to get into him. In the end apart from the odd piece I don't think there's anything to 'get into' at all. |
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off to hear Desert Music live now! :) |
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Phillip Glass's Mishima soundtrack is better than fiesty hot sex. I'd recommend it. |
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I hate you :) |
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