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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-12-06 09:01 [#00979586]
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check out the scoop here
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-06 09:06 [#00979591]
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nothing on canabis?? alright then
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-12-06 09:07 [#00979592]
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They used to call cocaine dope in the 40's.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-12-06 09:10 [#00979593]
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eep! good thing i quit ecstasy! :D
plus i only did it about three times over a two month period of so - so i should be alright. but if my kid comes out with a third arm, then the friends who introduced me to this are gonna DIE.
and they have done a LOT of ecstasy. their kids are prolly gonna be hunchbacks.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-12-06 09:12 [#00979595]
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ok, it mutates your dna...but what exactly does it mutate? How exactly does it effect the children? (i'm sure that most of them'll be e-tards with low brainwave functions). also, how much x does it take to mutate the center of my tootsie pop? 1, 2...3? I'm sure that in order for it to do anything drastic you'll have to consume so much that'll you'll recieve extreamly noticable short-term side effects.
i'd like to see their experiments that led these ppl to this conclusion. I'm sure it DOES mutate dna...but i'm sure it'll have to be and insane amount.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-12-06 09:15 [#00979598]
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still, i wasn't touching ecstasy anymore anyways. :D
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-12-06 09:16 [#00979599]
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indeed! mary jane has not done me wrong yet. ;)
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nacmat
on 2003-12-06 09:47 [#00979623]
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as long as cannabis is good for my children I will have to smoke it then
:)
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stilaktive
from a place on 2003-12-06 09:48 [#00979625]
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drugs are cool and you know it.
i live in a muslim country so i can't touch the stuff or i will get screwed. But it does make it nicer and someting to look forward to when i go back to england.
Pills are bad and dirty. shrooms are the best.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-12-06 09:59 [#00979634]
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I am so not trying thoose drugs... it sounds too scary.
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Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-06 10:52 [#00979682]
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oh well, looks like i'll have hunchbacked kids. But in these days of ultrasound scans and abortions i guess it aint all bad.
and on a cynical, argumentatvice note -- one webpage with some unsupported claims that dna mutation happened when ecstasy was given to animals (rats? mice? rabbits?) does not convince me of anything. Not that im refuting the possibilty of long term side effects. but surely its possible that feeding mice ecstasy may have different side effects to feeding humans ecstasy.
perhaps i may post a 'to all u alcohol drinkers thinking of having a liver in the future' topic.
live and let live
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-06 11:00 [#00979687]
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"perhaps i may post a 'to all u alcohol drinkers thinking of having a liver in the future' topic."
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what has that got to do with anything..?
ecstacy is bad for you. YEAH BUT SO IS ALCOHOL!! myeh, but that doesn't make the e's less bad for you..
or do you mean with "live and let live" OH WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE ANYWAY AND IT'S ALL BAD FOR YOU AND NORMAL FOOD GIVES YOU CANCER THESE DAYS SO YOU COULD JUST AS WELL INJECT BROKEN GLASS DIRECTLY INTO YOUR AORTA etc. etc...?
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uzim
on 2003-12-06 11:09 [#00979692]
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"plus i only did it about three times over a two month period of so - so i should be alright. but if my kid comes out with a third arm, then the friends who introduced me to this are gonna DIE."
> aha, this reaction would be a bit easy and irresponsible from you, mister!!
if they introduced you to it without forcing you to take it, you had the choice. and by taking a drug, you can't say you didn't know you were talking a risk.
please. take your own responsabilites when you take a drug.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-12-06 11:29 [#00979716]
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i am skeptical of mainstream published reports such as this because i am well versed in the long standing western tradition of amplifying and distorting research to discourage drug use.
i don't advocate any drug use in particular.
but what these scientists aren't telling you is that these changes do not mean necessarily that there will be an observable effect on the dna or health of your offspring. these effects were observed in laboratory animals, and we don't know what quantity of cocaine or mdma the animals were given. also, they don't bother to mention how many legal pharmaceutical drugs exert the same kinds of effects.
although one is taking a huge risk when taking a black market product (you don't know who manufactured it, or under what circumstances, or if it's bona fide etc), i think it is counterproductive to disseminate misinformation, even if for a positive cause. honesty is the best policy.
who here is familiar with the enormous world health organization report on the effects and use of cocaine from a few years ago? no one, probably. the united states government suppressed the report and threatened to withdraw all support for the w.h.o. if the report was published. so you can only access the report on the internet. the report stated that the vast majority of cocaine users used the drug in moderation and did not develop addictive behaviors.
the sole cause of death remains being alive. the best advice is, don't drink from the poisoned well.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-12-06 11:57 [#00979734]
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point well taken.
guess you could say too, if you didn't use drugs, you wouldn't have to worry about any of this stuff anyway.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-12-06 11:59 [#00979736]
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i never touched drugs in my entire life, aside from perscribed ones in pharmacies. i ain't got nuttin to worry about yo =)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-06 12:01 [#00979738]
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how can those perscribed ones be any different??
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-12-06 12:10 [#00979747]
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medicinal purposes.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-06 12:13 [#00979751]
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You see! Drugs accelerate the rate of evolution - Terrence McKenna and Timothy Leary were right!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-12-06 12:24 [#00979757]
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i suspect drugs accelerated the rate of terrence mckenna's death
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-12-06 12:25 [#00979758]
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if the truth can be told so as to be understood, it WILL be believed
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Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-06 12:35 [#00979775]
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"perhaps i may post a 'to all u alcohol drinkers thinking of having a liver in the future' topic."
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what has that got to do with anything..?
ecstacy is bad for you. YEAH BUT SO IS ALCOHOL!! myeh, but that doesn't make the e's less bad for you..
or do you mean with "live and let live" OH WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE ANYWAY AND IT'S ALL BAD FOR YOU AND NORMAL FOOD GIVES
YOU CANCER THESE DAYS SO YOU COULD JUST AS WELL INJECT BROKEN GLASS DIRECTLY INTO YOUR AORTA etc. etc...?
what i mean with live and let live is 'if u dont do drugs fair enough, but why post messages to 'dopeheads' pointing them to goverment misinformation?
thus my point about an anti alcohol topic... because i dont drink much alcohol should i post topics addressed to 'winos' or 'alchis' with links to pages about liver disease. No. because presumably people know the risks of various substances before they take them.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-12-06 14:12 [#00979910]
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uh
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2003-12-06 18:34 [#00980084]
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That message was a lengthy one and I seem to be all out of reading ability, just put it on my tab.......
bwuhahahaaa
sorry
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2003-12-06 18:36 [#00980086]
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Dear me as of two minutes ago,
That wasn't funny.
Sincerely,
Current state me.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-12-06 20:23 [#00980210]
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no drug is harmless - and especially not alcohol, but who wants to study and publish reports about the side effects of alcohol anyway? I'm sure many do, but there's hardly any focus on it.
most likely, in the long run: alcohol = bad drugs = bad
life = dangerous, it could kill you.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-06 21:22 [#00980275]
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nlogax = the man with the plan ;)
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-12-06 21:39 [#00980295]
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erm, that does not compute :)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-12-06 21:43 [#00980302]
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shit like this pisses me off:
these things lack everythin i need to beleive it
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-06 21:46 [#00980308]
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ever seen "The Usual Suspects"? I was likening you to Verbal Kint. It would be a bad thing if he didnt turn out to be such a badass in the end. ;) anyway I was just basically saying that I think you're essentially right, at least about them being bad for one's health.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-12-06 22:04 [#00980321]
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I'm without a doubt essentially right about one thing though: life will kill you.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-12-06 22:05 [#00980324]
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well yes, but I figured that one didnt need to be commented on ;)
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-12-07 04:25 [#00980452]
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My idea is the best. I plan to publish a rreporrt that asks the govt. to wrrap childrren borrn afterr the yearr 2006 up in big cotton wool blankets which they will rremain in until they die aged (hopefully) 214.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-12-07 06:10 [#00980486]
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you seriously need help.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-12-07 10:33 [#00980632]
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Anus that rocked lol
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-12-07 10:53 [#00980643]
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i would be the former but not the latter
(for the dopeheads whore reading this: that means im a dopehead but i fuckin HATE kids) :P
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-12-07 11:05 [#00980649]
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oh blish blosh
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-12-07 11:50 [#00980702]
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that may change. I said may :)
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2003-12-07 12:25 [#00980734]
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There's an abortion argument in here somewhere.
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whyiamsocool
from Vancouver on 2003-12-07 12:51 [#00980763]
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that link reminds me of the u.s. govrenment's study that 'proved' pot caused brain damage. When people started asking what they did for the study :
-they forced monkeys to smoke pot through a strapped-on inhaler. They smoked the equivelant of 40-50 JOINTS IN AN HOUR!
After they killed the monkeys and checked for brain damage. There was brain damage but it was because they were SUFFOCATING THEM with smoke.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-12-07 12:55 [#00980768]
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more empty scare tactics from the gov. controled media.
shocker.
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