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man i'd be so pissed if they were after a decent artist. |
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for crying out loud! the secret service? I say: GIVE ME A GODDAMN BREAK!!! Is this april fools day, or what? |
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isn't it weird how a word can make perfect sense but when you reverse it is just a load of nonsense. |
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yeah, like poop |
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you insensitive bastard |
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it's the same way with avatars. that's why it has to keep switching back and forth. |
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damn they are paranoid yo.. |
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lol, CNN sucks ass |
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hey, you might not like CNN but Zeus loves it. |
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despite the fact that this is eminem, it is still a horrible thing, america is trying to control how their citizens think |
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it's a nation of fear it's a nation of fear |
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good thing george w is going to fight the fear with his jesusness. |
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On the subject of free speech, I don't think that should extent to being a defense against conspiracy to kill someone (or commit other crime), but this takes the piss. It's very different to jokingly say, Tony Blair is a lying fucker who I'd like to see shot and seriously going about planning to do it with other people. If you think this is bad, a few years back a UK student had some FBI guys turn up on campus (in the UK) to investigate him after he jokingly mentioned bombing Clinton (then president). |
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if we sent FBI agents to everyone in the world that wanted to bomb us.......we'll we'd see more commercials for 'join the FBI' than the army. |
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how the hell can they even investigate if the song was stolen, and never even officially released? so, if i was to record a tape of me saying "i really wish the president was dead", that's alright, but the moment that someone breaks into my house, steals the tape, and puts it on the internet, i'll be investigated? and what's the government doing with pirated music, anyway? |
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at least use a release album. try "The Second Stage Turbine Blade" (2002) in the arm that killed the president, relapse, waiting, here, for you |
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As it happens, the FBI have an office in London, makes it easy for them to going knocking on doors here :D |
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do you think your free speech means that you can joke that you have a gun with you before you get on a plane? can you appreciate that whether or not you like the president, he (and all presidents) get many, many death threats, and the only way to know if they are serious threats is to have a policy to invesigate *all* threats? it was only forty years ago that a united states president was murdered in public. i feel like i've walked into a room of spoiled children, talking about the unfair limits on what they've taken for granted. |
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Er, Eminem didn't threaten to kill the President.. |
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dude there is SUCH a big difference, between eminem, an artist known for his "shocking" lyrics (or whatever) making a fleeting rap on how he doesnt like the current president (sure, he said dead, but he also wrote a song about killing his wife), and standing up in the terminal of an airport and announcing "ive got a gun" so dont even give me that crap. you can twist the words, and find "what if" senarios all you like... but this is just plain stupid. |
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you can't go around saying what the fuck you want |
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You can't say that. |
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i can't say this either |
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can you scream "fuck" in church or go running around spouting racial slurs in public or making death threats to police officers? well, you can, i suppose, but it wouldn't make you very popular. |
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I think they're getting their knickers in a twist of this one. A rapper advocates killing the president. Wow! That's what rappers are meant to do, aren't they? It's what rap was invented for -- 'fight the power' and shit like that. Now, if it were Donny Osmond singing about having the president lined-up in his cross-hairs then it would be worthy of an investigation. Maybe an interogation at Guantanamo Bay. |
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i think they dont like him cause hes black oh wait... |
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i could give a crap. eminem is garbage. he's all shock value, like brian warner and crew. i say, let them press charges or do whatever. he deserves it for being such a talentless loudmouth. |
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but what happens when some braindance guy makes a 40 minute noisescape with the phrase kill president looped in... and then he's prosecuted because the world thinks he's a talentless hack... i suppose it doesn't really matter that they investigate him so long as he isn't being seriously inconvenienced by it... after all... the us government did knock off their own man 40 years ago... they don't want other people moving in on their business of which presidents get killed and which don't.... |
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if he puts a phrase like that in there, then he probably means it... in which case, he knows well what hes getting into. plus, that would be a crap move anyway. there's a way to express your views with more tact and articulation than "kill the president". so poop on em. |
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Please, it's just a fucking play on words. |
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zeus, you're mixing up my points. one point is, there are some limits to your "freedom of speech." number two, the secret service *must* investigate all perceived threats. this doesn't mean that anyone is charged with a crime. you're one to talk about twisting words. i mainly took issue with the repetitive suggestion that this acknowledgement of an investigation into that publicized lyric represented evidence of a threat to freedom of speech. in my opinion, this thread is the worst of impotent, sour-grapes armchair social criticism. |
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*claps with one hand* |
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Yes a lot people don't seem to understand what freedom of speech means or at least intentionally misinterpret it... I think it's quite clear when it's being used to defend a political statement made within the acceptable confines of current democracy. When it's used as a defence against libel, it is quite rightly seen as irrelevant. Your freedom to voice your opinion is one thing... when you state something as if it were fact and it's not, it's a different matter. You do have to feel for the secret services... on the one hand, people omplain when there is investigation into a comparatively low risk threat like this, yet similarly they're up in arms if there is evidence after a terrorist act that it could of been averted or at least decreased in impact had they acted on uncertain intelligence. |
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the fbi reads every xltronic post |
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E C H E L O N ! ! ! A friend and I used to include realy awful poetry in emails (when Clinton was president and before the film ;) where the first letter of each line spelt out "kill bill". EG: Karma seeps, Into the world, Love and Happiness, Loathing and Ill Will, Borders mean nothing, In the great scheme of things, Life is infinity, Life goes on. |
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you should watch the movie the people vs. larry flynt.. |
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i mean if anyone is going to kill the president it's obviously going to be a celebrity |
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Christ all your avatar-craziness. |
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What?? Why the FUCK does the FBI have offices in countries other than the US??? |
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THey check everything. Anyone remeber that sean baby article where the secret service met up with Sean and Migeul ? It was over some dumb ass comment. These feds should worry about bigger problems, like those KKK nuts from Texas. Anyway ... |
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i HAVE... and i disagree. you can call it what you want, but lines DO need to be drawn against people's actions. what flynt wants is anarchy. and anarchy doesn't work. people are just plain horrible at governing themselves, no matter what system its under. |
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Sometimes you just gotta let shit slide. |
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well, we'll see how nervous you get when i release my rap jaunt "dj xammax should be killed on sight". and if i had guys with guns who could go scare the crap of of feminem, id do it. |
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The FBI provided the UK with all the intelligence for Operation Awe (paedophile bust). |
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I was only quoting Chris Rock!!! |
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im still writing my rap ballad for you! ;P |
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For liaison with overseas police forces and other law enforcement agencies. So much crime is cross-border it makes sense to have some kind of presence in selected foreign countries. |
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I bet he'd complain about the cost of flying them over for meetings and putting them up in hotels if they didn't have offices! ;) Fun Opinion (NOT FACT): I believe internet based crime will be the main cause for a standardised legal system (or at least, brought a great deal closer) being implemented in the west within our lifetime. |
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