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manifestevil
from Australia on 2003-12-01 19:04 [#00973241]
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i'm sure if you had a terminal disease you would think differently Monoid.
I found your statement sad, i can only feel sorry for you.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-01 19:32 [#00973284]
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HIV spreads under Bush Africa policy
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-12-01 19:33 [#00973287]
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no opinions here, but I just find it funny that the most deadly disease in this country is 100% preventable.
that's just funny.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-12-01 20:28 [#00973368]
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I think Ceri mentioned that in South Africa some people thinmk that they can cure themselves of AIDS by passing it on but has anyone mentioned that this caused a rash of child molesting?
Grown men were "curing" themselves of AIDS by raping babies.
I don't have much of an opinion on the people with AIDS but I really think the disease is unfortunate
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2003-12-01 20:32 [#00973375]
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there was a documentary on about prostitutes in Africa last year sometime. They found that many of the women were immune to the AIDS virus, despite having sex with 1000's of infected men they never contracted the virus.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2003-12-02 00:26 [#00973680]
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People who try to act as though they have never done anything irresponsible are idiots.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-12-02 00:42 [#00973687]
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my opinion is that your opinion is irrelevant
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-02 00:43 [#00973688]
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I agree to a certain extent... I do think that when people get AIDS by pure irresposibility then yes, it's their own fault and stupidity... but still, we don't just let them die... we still try and help them!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-02 00:44 [#00973689]
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also, I find that a little shocking... if someone is infected, THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE SEX, even protected sex... come on, condoms aren't fail safe... they can break...
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2003-12-02 00:51 [#00973693]
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People who get the flu should also stay inside, but instead they go out and infect people. I think we should all start wearing biosuits so as to eliminate all infectious diseases.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-02 00:52 [#00973694]
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and yes, Africa may be worse off now then during apartied, but come on, you don't just get ride of something like that and imediately change to the opposite, prosperous nation... obviously apartied was a bad thing, and so they got rid of it... a good thing... but it's a process, to move from that and pick up the pieces and really become a stable nation...
just look at the former Soviet Union (haha, been researching them for a report)... they've gone through the process of switching from a communist regime to capitalism... two polar opposites... it's taken over ten years for the countries to get where they are now, and they're still far from prospering from the new capitalist economies, but they are growing and improving with time...
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-12-02 00:52 [#00973695]
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but the flu doesn't always kill you
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2003-12-02 00:53 [#00973696]
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hiv doesnt always kill either both diseases kill many people each year though
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-12-02 00:54 [#00973697]
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when you compare HIV/AIDS to the flue, this discussion descends into ridiculous
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manifestevil
from Australia on 2003-12-02 05:04 [#00973844]
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so some people say reckon its your own fault,well maybe but you can get aids from other ways than unprotected sex.
So yr saying that if a doctor gives you aids from a blood transfusion its yrown fault?
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 05:21 [#00973848]
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I dunno... the flue kills.
Say if we did just let the irresponsible HIV victims die.... how can we prove whether a victim is guilty? innocent people go down for crimes they didn't commit all the time so it's surely better to try to help all HIV victims, not just the innocent ones?
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manifestevil
from Australia on 2003-12-02 05:39 [#00973855]
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if there was no humanity in the world there would be no humanity.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-02 05:47 [#00973858]
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if you read Monoids first post it seems that he excludes those instances where it's not the persons own fault...
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manifestevil
from Australia on 2003-12-02 06:10 [#00973876]
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yeah ok but some others have also statedthey beleive its the victims own fault
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-12-02 09:51 [#00974086]
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aaah, good to see everyone managed to catch opera
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 12:36 [#00974297]
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a friend of mine became hiv after a guy he trusted lied to him about getting regulary tested - it's a harsh life being hiv positive - treated liek shit by people constantly feeling ill always on pills, not knowing when your're gonna get worse.
he works in a place looking after and giving advice and help to people with hiv .
monoid your reaction is pretty hateful - you're constantly spouting this kind of shit and wiyning the whole time , you should fucking grow up
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 12:40 [#00974302]
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what the fuck is it with the hollier than thou attutitude of people on this site about aids - people deserve to die because of irresponsibility ?
do people who eat stea deserve to diew of heart attacks? that's pretty sick and nasty
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-12-02 12:46 [#00974313]
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People who have heart attacks from eating too much have paid for their treatment many times over in VAT on fatty food (that's a fact, the actual figure is something like 4 times the cost on average). I think Monoid's point was that tax would be better spent on treating something else, for example an illness where those with it have not done anything at all to get it. For example someone who has Multiple Sclerosis.
Surely you can see the point that if there is a limited amount of money to be spent on health care it is more moral to spend it on those who have not caught the disease through their actions?
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-12-02 13:32 [#00974353]
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i think what people have been saying, is more along the lines of what I was saying.
You feel real bad for the kids, and blood transfusion fuck ups, but for everyone else, it's 100% preventable. I'd rather cry over kids starving in Africa than some guy who got too much pussy.
it's not like cancer, keep your dick in your pants and you're a ok.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-12-02 13:42 [#00974378]
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I'd rather cry over kids starving in Africa than some guy who got too much pussy
Hahaha classic line.
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