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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 16:28 [#00971797]
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check me out!
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-30 16:37 [#00971804]
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some of the worst music i've ever heard.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2003-11-30 16:39 [#00971805]
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dont let the horse get you down, he's probably shit... I tried to listen but it didnt work, sumthin bout QuickTime?
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 16:39 [#00971806]
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tnx
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 16:40 [#00971807]
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yes, you need quicktime for that site it says..
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2003-11-30 16:43 [#00971808]
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well that's me out! Put them on sumwhere else especially for me plz
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-30 16:44 [#00971810]
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no, you can download them as usual, as they are just .mp3 files.
just right click and choose "save target as".
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2003-11-30 16:46 [#00971813]
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i know that but i dont hav time to download right now (I'm a 56k init) , off to sleep soon :P
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 16:49 [#00971817]
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no! that's why i especially made 128k versions
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 16:50 [#00971818]
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so i understand you actually listened horsefactory. what didnt you like then? be specific
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-30 16:54 [#00971826]
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ok. i don't want to be harsh, but i can't say there was a lot i liked about any of them.
basically, it sounded like you had just used the default samples in fruityloops, and with absolutely no modification to said samples you constructed "beats", probably by randomly clicking cells in the pattern editor.
once you had made a few of these patterns you layered them together, as the track progessed you gradually layered more and more to create some kind of climax.
i would comment on melody but there was none; the songs were made entirely of the drum patterns i explained earlier.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2003-11-30 16:58 [#00971831]
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I'll download them tomorrow and give you some input.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2003-11-30 17:06 [#00971835]
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I've decided to prolong my being awake to listen to your music. Give me a bit and i'll get back to you.
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 17:08 [#00971836]
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uhm, yes, it's not random beats though, but it Ãs made just by a drumming program of 100k with just midi drums samples, so i couldnt modify the samples or put melody in, it's just beats
so the first track there is the second track i ever created on my compu and the third my fourth, you should see some progression. i was actually rewriting the last track but after two weeks gave up, so i like the beginning and then it gets a bit chaotic maybe. the second track isnt though, that's supposed to be a hiphop beat (with toms over it that made me think of miami vice) the first track is just fun, but it does have some more complexity due to different divided measures over eachother.
tnx for listening though
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 17:11 [#00971839]
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i dont know what to give to you i cant mail 'em or anything, you should right click and save to disk. i can just say that the 3rd track, nmbbsII is the loudest, the 2d, hipvice, the most relaxed and the 1st the most fun
tnx for sacrificing sleep for me it is just drum tracks as i said in the last post though
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 17:12 [#00971841]
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i can mail you the program and the files if you have mac. i hope you wont rip me off though and make millions with em
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2003-11-30 17:18 [#00971845]
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O.K I will divide what I have to say into good points, bad points and suggestions.
Good Points: = drum and beat work = climax structure = timing
Bad Points: = Lack of tune or variation = too fast in places = too many different beats at once.
Suggestions: It sounds to me that you may have rushed these songs, I could only listen to 2 and 3 cos 1 didnt work but this is what I thought from what I heard. I suggest you spend a little more time on your tunes. I don't know what program you are using but if it's stopping you from making any tune then I suggest you get a new one immediately (FruityLoops free from Kazaa). You have good timing with beats and you have a good ear for a climax in a song. All you need to do now is combine your beats with a good tune then you will be on your way to making awsome music. Hope this helps you.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2003-11-30 17:29 [#00971848]
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Please read what I have said I spent ages thinking about it...
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 17:36 [#00971854]
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yes, thanks, that's very good comment sir! i didnt really want people to have to much idea about the tracks on beforehand, but i should have been more clear on the fact that it's just drums. it was a nice experience for me doing this because i play guitar, and a bit of piano, so normally i'm mostly melody. i assumed furthermore that people were aware of the fact that i have this 'music programs?'-thread running in which i explain that im just starting with electronic music, and im asking what to get.
on your points: i think the drum samples sound nice too, considering the program is 100k and the files of the tracks less than that. climax structure is something i have experience with in writing guitar music (which ill upload too someday). timing too, i guess. still im glad and flattered you thought those good points.
lack of tune and variation i did everything i could about, given my limitations, i couldnt make more, at this point, out of it though.
i presume the last two points, too fast and too many beats is mainly on the last track: i started to rewrite that one but just couldnt get it finished, i totally went mad with the screwing around with those little dots, going deaf from the infinite looped measure. also i started hating that track to it's guts and decided to keep with some freshly made track, which sounded more fun, but way less crafty, i think all those beats dont really go very could together, but you cant hear that anyway due to a overload of them, it's just some drill-pastiche, i guess
the first track is altogether not so special, and it doesnt download as i understand?
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 17:37 [#00971858]
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'fcourse razorblade, dear pall, i was just spending ages replying :)
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 18:03 [#00971889]
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ha! im number one in the daily top 5!
i want to especially thank my fans for listening to me. i hope you all will keep listening to on my future musical explorations.
(especially since it isnt really my best track there and i think it doesnt even work, but ill check that)
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-11-30 18:25 [#00971904]
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Hey, just drums can sound really funky. Plastikman's old stuff is really basic but builds and builds very nicely.
I think those are Roland 707 sounds, which I dislike most of the time, so I imdiately felt like "oh no..." but halfway through track 1 I thought you did some nice things with it.
I'd say this: Get a raped copy of the program Reason and start getting serious.
If you buy it, as opposed to downloading it, you should try to build up your own sample library and toss the sample cd's in the lake.
Sort all your sounds into huge categories like "Drums & Percussion" & "Melodic sounds" and so on... Then create sub-categories like "Bassdrums" "Fucked up percussion" "Breaks" "Music loops" and so on...
It takes a lot of time and patience to find good stuff to cut/sample from, and often you might only use it once, but it's very good to keep track of your stuff because if you're serious about electronic music your library of sounds WILL grow.
Start learning about post processing of your tracks, it can make a huge difference. Mastering and mixing is something a really don't have a good grasp on but basic EQ and compression knowledge is a must. If you have a large HD, try to keep a non-processed copy of your tracks if possible - I always tended to use too much compression in the beginning.
Also try to get your hands on Cool Edit Pro 2 or 1.3, it'll make sampling and editing of your samples very easy.
Good luck!
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 19:02 [#00971943]
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thanks man! i will get reason 2.5 im a bit worried i cant use it on my mac with just 64 mb memory though, as from tomorrow i will be able to use a pc with, i hope, more ram.
sampling does sound like a load of work, where do you sample from then? cd's, a microphone on a building site, or do you cut up and modify exiting samples?
i thought that first beat sounded good to, only i couldnt see in which division level i had made the diffent layers so i just couldnt sync beats.
cool you (possibly) identified the samples, i thought they were standard midi, or is it that anyway? i thought it so strange the sidekick (my fav) sounded mushy and not clicky anymore at 128k compression. i will keep the original aiff, and the original virtual drummer files (since, again, those are less then 100 k, geegh)
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 19:11 [#00971959]
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i see a big writersblock coming up, i'll never top this one, :-/
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-30 19:15 [#00971965]
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I can't open soundmurder.com.
it just gives me like a logo but nothing else..
anyway, I'm not that interested in hearing beat-tracks - I'll give a listen when you've made some full tracks.
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big
from lsg on 2003-11-30 19:23 [#00971974]
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yes it doesnt run to well, maybe with netscape it's better or something, with me it freaks up once in a while too. i did try to make catchy things making up for melody, but i do recommend you wait for full tracks, im tired already thinking about the effort im gonna have to put in getting and learning those new programs, or is it because it's past three?
anywho, im really curious as to what you use for programs qrter, reason?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-30 19:27 [#00971980]
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I use SoundForge 7.0 and Nuendo (I think 2.0 but I'm not sure). Nuendo is much like Cubase - it is made by Steinberg too.
I use SF mainly for making sounds and post-production stuff. Nuendo is for the sequencing and also a lot of plugin-stuff.
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-01 03:15 [#00972138]
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do review there if you feel like it :)
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-01 09:22 [#00972413]
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woohoo! my track is still no3 in the general and no2 in the electronic chart!
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2003-12-01 09:24 [#00972415]
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Which track is this? If it's different to one I hav heard then please link me.
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-01 09:34 [#00972428]
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it's the first one, the one you couldnt open i believe, you might want to try again, sometimes diffent browsers do the trick..
it's astonishing to see how many people just click the first track..
jeez my avatar and horsefactory's one are driving me mad while typing: sync it out!
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-01 12:20 [#00972654]
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what? are there a total of 3 songs in general, and 2 in electronic?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-12-01 12:31 [#00972669]
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how did this get so big
uh i mean
ill listen
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-01 12:33 [#00972673]
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this is usually what happens when you're new on one of these sites - people listen to you because.. um.. well.. you're new!
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-01 15:26 [#00972952]
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i think it has something to do with the fact i mailt like 130 people about it
im at two, with the one same track, in those two charts still, not much reply though, so i guess i've minimized my audience for the future, i thought i'd made it pretty clear it's just fun. people dont reply in general is my experience anyway.
still: i wished qrter would listen with his expert ears :-)
here's the stats im still astonished by:
Name
Style
Total Plays
Total Downloads
Reviews
latingabba's (128k)
Electronic
24
32
0
latingabba's (320k)
Electronic
8
8
0
hipvice (128k)
Electronic
3
6
0
hipvice (320k)
Electronic
7
4
0
nmbbsII (128k)
Electronic
2
5
0
nmbbsII (320k)
Electronic
3
2
0
everytime you attempt to download counts too though, i found out myself, that was a few download counted already
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-01 16:09 [#00972995]
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as I said, I'll have a listen when you have made something more complete. there's just not a lot I can say about beat-tracks anyway.
second thing is - I still can't see your site.
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-01 16:47 [#00973057]
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okay strange you cant see it
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2003-12-01 16:56 [#00973081]
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Hey big, you have any other tracks?
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k_maty
on 2003-12-01 17:07 [#00973095]
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haha horsefactory nice thread...WATCH OUT....THERE GONNA GETCHA!!!!!!11
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-02 02:44 [#00973751]
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no, thanks for asking :) a friend of mine is getting reason for me, so it'll be a while before i can put out anything with that
im afraid this little moment of glory is over for now ill keep y'all informed, cheers, big
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-12-02 03:35 [#00973780]
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You shitting on Biggie Smalls? I won't listen to your music.
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-02 03:46 [#00973785]
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no, paying respects to spongebob squarepants
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-12-02 03:51 [#00973789]
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..or shitting on Biggie.
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-02 05:22 [#00973849]
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i know only a big
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-12-02 06:05 [#00973871]
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you know nothing.
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-02 06:20 [#00973881]
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should i call myself smallie than? im not really big
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-12-02 06:23 [#00973885]
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Yes, that's it. I'll start loving you again now.
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-02 06:51 [#00973907]
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i'll be your smallie
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-12-02 07:12 [#00973928]
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/------------------\ | | | stank you! | < | \------------------/
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-02 07:19 [#00973934]
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what is that?
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