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do you know of any good progs of this kind? or probably some sdk's for delphi or cbuilder? |
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Unlike generative graphical art, generative sounds tend to be pretty gash on their own (unless you mean in the sense of "writing" something in Csound etc.) |
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i've written some apps to create images based on some algorithms. and also some apps to create music the same way. needless to say, the graphics were way better than the sounds. so probably different rules apply. i just need something to see how other people have done it so i can do something on my own. i tried csound in the past but didn't like it. but the concept is neat and i'm trying do write something similar but in the form of an sdk for delphi. i just need some info to carry on. |
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Yeah generative graphical art is excellent, I'm doing the main part of my degree on it. Sorry can't help with the delphi stuff- I stopped using delphi about 6/7 years ago :) |
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i feel retro :) |
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try Basic instead |
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I know a prg called chaos synth based on the Game of Life... BTW, what kind of 'parameters' do you want to generate ; wether it's beat programming or synth textures you can use a wide range of different techniques like fractal modelling or feedback-based generation (mostly for noise). |
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i said retro, not ancient. |
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currently i have oscillators library. theoretically an infinite number of oscillators can be linked in ways to modulate each others amplitude and frequency. some very wicked sounds come out. i'm working on some more advanced envelopes (modulation doesn't do all i want). but i mostly just need some alogrithms to create sequences. |
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Yeah but sequences of what ? Your osc. have a frequency, phase and shape parameters and you want to 'randomize' all of this ? IMO it can only sound shit if you don't find some kind of constrains to apply to your 'sequence'. |
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my terminology may not be correct, i'm not an expert. i meant tonal sequences. sequences of notes. nothing random though. some randomization may be applied but only after heavy restrictions on the output. |
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Good ! that was what I wanna hear from you. No seriously too many people just don't make the difference between generative and randomized. Totally different aesthetics of sounds - different like autechre vs merzbow. Now you, all I can tell you is trying to learn languages like MAX/MSP or Csound (even if you don't like it it's the only way to go beyond the VSTi + presets + turn the knobs = experiment paradigm) |
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mathematical oscillators sound shit. my 2 cents |
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Supercollider is good too (mac only though), but just for making sounds for tracks- I wouldn't try to do a whole track in it. |
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ceri jc - supercollider only really gets good when u start making trax in it!!! or at least sections of tracks... look at the Pattern classes. interesting things: symbollic composer (mac,winxp?) also keykit (mac,win,linux) sseyo koan (mac,winxp) cycling 74's M sequencer theres another one i cant remember. |
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