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mimi
on 2003-11-24 11:52 [#00963596]
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I don't agree with absolutely everything Theo is saying, I'm sure there are the rare few who will fuck anything that walks with no preference what's between the knees, but he's got a way better argument than you guys are giving him.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-11-24 11:55 [#00963598]
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That's exactly what his argument is. And since he won't hear any reason on the subject, I say we start a poll.
All who believe that ALL bi-sexuals are pretending, type "1"
All who believe that theo himself is a total moron and is full of shit, type "2"
-2-
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mimi
on 2003-11-24 11:56 [#00963599]
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listen to yourself.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-24 11:57 [#00963600]
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{2}
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-24 11:57 [#00963601]
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Jesus I'm bored
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-24 11:58 [#00963602]
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theo would you be as kind as to repeat your opinions about bisexual people for the 14th time, you might convince me this time with your good arguments
or maybe not
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 11:59 [#00963604]
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do you expect me to even acknowledge that comment? do you honestly think I'd ever shut up because some agorophobe in stockholm told me to on a message board? and please, you don't fucking know me, so you don't know what a 'cunt like me' would do .. you know nothing about me. fuck off.
bisexuals are gay or straight people following the "trisexual" cliche. that's it. there are people who claim they are bisexual, yes, but it's dishonest. they're in denial of one of the two attractions. or they're doing it for show/fun. end of story. period. do everyone a favor and just shut up because we don't like it when people make us feel wrong/stupid. I'm glad I pissed you off.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-11-24 12:00 [#00963605]
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And that argument would be....?
I am listening to myself
By reason I meant "any other sides to an argument" not that my logic is the only that can be consider "reason". His argument is that "Bisexuals are attention whores and lyers and arent genuinely attracted to both sexes" Or did you miss that?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-24 12:00 [#00963606]
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thanks
didn't work though
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-24 12:01 [#00963607]
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please do that again
you're turning me on
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 12:02 [#00963609]
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zephyr.. for that poll can I do 1 & 2?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-11-24 12:04 [#00963610]
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You can do it however you like it's just a poll. (although may I suggest that lovely number 2)
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mimi
on 2003-11-24 12:04 [#00963612]
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I am just saying, he's got a right to be pissed the way you guys are trying to argue. No, you're wrong, period -- that's not an argument.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 12:07 [#00963613]
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not one person here can name a homoheterosexual that has sustained that orientation through and through. at one point or another, they chalk it up to dorm-room experimentation, a drug-induced haze, E, or straight up sex.. available sex.. hey!-I-remember-that-dream-I-had-@-age-15-that-made-me-kind I-want-to-try-this sex.. I-wonder-what-this-is-like sex.. -of-uneasy,-I-wonder-if-there's-anything-to-that sex..
anne heche.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-24 12:07 [#00963614]
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come on play along
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 12:08 [#00963616]
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oh ok I was just wondering if I could go both ways.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-24 12:08 [#00963617]
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oh clever you
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-11-24 12:09 [#00963618]
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You're right, that's NOT an argument, and it's precisely the one that Theo began using first.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 12:09 [#00963619]
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hey!-I-remember-that-dream-I-had-@-age-15-that-made-me-k ind-of-uneasy,-I-wonder-if-there's-anything-to-that sex..
..that is
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-24 12:10 [#00963620]
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dont even bother to correct it, noone really reads your posts
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 12:10 [#00963621]
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no.. that's not true. people got all outraged and told me how WRONG I was.. so I had to retort in a similarly closed-minded and insulting manner... and there you have it
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 12:11 [#00963622]
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yeah you've all made that abundantly clear today.
it's time for you to go somewhere else.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-24 12:12 [#00963624]
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i cant heaaaaaarrrrr you
*puts fingers in ears and makes funny face
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-24 12:14 [#00963627]
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I wonder how many bi-sexual (waiving all disscussion of whether they *really* are *bi*-sexual or not) end up going straight when they decide to finally settle down with someone permanently due to the fact that then they'll be able to have kids...
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-24 12:18 [#00963629]
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come on theo its been 7 minutes since you last posted
I WANT TO BE ENTERTAINED
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-11-24 12:18 [#00963630]
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you're the one throwing "fuck-you's" all over the place.
quote: you're a fucking idiot. :unquote
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 12:19 [#00963631]
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oh. right. because they could NEVER find someone to have kids with if in a homosexual relationship. you've clearly worked out all the points on this one. good job champ!
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-24 12:21 [#00963634]
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wtf? If in a faithfull permanent and gay realtionship, no they couldn't. By 'have kids' I mean that the kid is the product of THIER union. Obviously
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-11-24 12:25 [#00963636]
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yeah, sorry i called you a retard, that would be insulting to a whole class of people who are smarter than you.
perhaps fucktard is a better word. anyway, your argument is pretty tired at this point, as, not only are you generalizing about an entire portion of the population, you're attempting to define their sexuality in terms of youth oriented experimentation, as opposed to any basis in biological fact, which is the only argument i find valid if you're going to attempt to refute an entire group of people based on the idea that you don't think they should fool around with members of both sexes.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-24 12:31 [#00963641]
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OK, so a lot's happened since the post I'm replying to, stuff I haven't yet read, but that has to be one of the most dumbass things I've read this side of Italia'90 ;D
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-11-24 12:33 [#00963643]
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ugh, dont get him started again. We've been through this already, read the posts. =p
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-11-24 12:33 [#00963644]
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I'm a tomato!
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-24 12:35 [#00963645]
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Hey, another dumb post :D
Trust me, as a bisexual man, you *can* like the cock and the pussy at the same time.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-11-24 12:35 [#00963646]
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Is this the triumphant return of raimons??? I haven't seen you around here in a while. WB if so. Nice avatar.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-24 12:38 [#00963650]
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You sir, are a complete muppet. If you believe people are born only homo or hetero you're sadly mistaken. Nature doesn't deal in absolutes.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-11-24 12:41 [#00963653]
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interesting reading huh, dan? personally, I'm gonna save this thread and use it when I'm feeling down.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 12:42 [#00963655]
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Ok theo, I know people that have orgys with everyone. And that doesn't necessarly mean that it is just dick in vagina sex. These folks fuck and grab and fondle everything because it is an orgy.
They have no care who is getting what off where or who is sticking what where they are all just fucking. They don't bring it up for attention or brag about it. It is just something they do.
The only reason I know is because I got invited. That is bi-sexual. IMO
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 12:43 [#00963656]
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you're gay
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 12:45 [#00963659]
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nope i turned it down which would probably mean i am straight as i only like girls.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 12:50 [#00963669]
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I wasn't talking to you, actually.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-24 12:55 [#00963678]
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oh i thought you labeled me gay by association! :P
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 12:56 [#00963682]
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right.. but all the individuals involved are all either gay or straight.. and getting everyone together for this big .. err clusterfuck (FLOABT).. is part of the fun involved in such a thing.. there are usually drugs.. amyl etc available to loosen everybody up.. they goto work the next day confident that nothing about them has changed.. and ob-la-di
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-24 13:01 [#00963693]
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The truth is that everyone is bisexual, but most most people are at the near-heterosexual end of the scale and the numbers taper downwards to near-homosexual.
As much as Theo seems to think bisexuality doesn't exist, I don't think 100% hetero and homosexuality exist, 99.99999% maybe, but if we're honest, we've all seen some small attraction in someone of the 'wrong' gender at one time or another.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-24 13:04 [#00963697]
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exactly
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 13:19 [#00963712]
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I could go either way on this (no pun intended) that we're all standing on the fulcrum of a sexual balance.. or we're either one thing or the other.. I have reason to believe both.. but the amount of fullofshit bisexuals I've seen pushes me towards the latter.. the evident attracttion and forced repression of such attractions to the other sex pushes me back to the former.. and all the other things I've said that lit a fire under the ass of all these non-bisexuals (curiously enough) are arguments, again, for the latter.. no one can say for sure. but I am very suspicious of alleged bisexuals
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Tropa
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-11-24 13:20 [#00963715]
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" Central to many of these texts are questions of identity, a concept which "bisexuals have alternately clung to and shrunk from,'' in Kathleen Bennett's words. Many bi's locate themselves on a continuum between straight and gay. A point which, for some, is not fixed: during a lifetime one's same or other sex attraction can increase (having gone from het to bi in middle age, this has been the case with me). This fluidity is itself seen as threatening by 'essentialist' outlooks which are common in the gay and lesbian milieux, theories which posit identity as an innate, unchanging essence from which many of us are said to be alienated; to become whole, we must rediscover our lost essence, our true identity. Concerning sexual orientation this easily leads to dismissing 10 years of pleasurable het sex as a state of false consciousness."
- BISEXUALITY Review by Michael...
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 13:26 [#00963723]
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right.. a gay guy dates straight women.. to play along w/ convention and not have to deal with the pressures of being outed.. later he gets more comfortable w/ himself and goes for jeffrey.. but doesnt want to alienate the people he spent so many forced years trying to win over.. so he keeps the girls on a backburner.. so that no one assumes TOO much
I think the more people become comfortable with homosxty., the less bisexuality you'll see.. that will more than likely happen, and you don't have to stand on the 'you're either gay or your straight' side of things to realize that.. think about it
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-11-24 13:34 [#00963735]
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You're still not considering the fact that there are bisexuals out there who love the pussy AND the cock. Maybe there will be a slight decrease as people become more accepting of homosexuality, but there will always "real live" bisexuals. Don't sweat it man, sooner or later you'll figure it out.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-11-24 13:34 [#00963736]
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that first bisexuals is meant to say "people"
obviously bisexuals love the pussy and the cock.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-24 13:43 [#00963751]
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there's nothing I need to figure out. don't fucking talk to me like that. if you've been reading, you'd know that I'm aware that people might find immediate pleasure in both orif- genders.. but somethign MIGHT be panging within.. they like one more than the other (a lot more than hte other) they are trying to fool themselves.. they might be trying to fool others.. all of those are possibilities.. undeniable possibilities..
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