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Ok, so I'm listening to Godspeed You Black Emperor, the Lift Your Skinny Fists album, and there are only 4 tracks on here... but, each song is like 20 minutes long, and composed of basically all these shorter songs put together... so, my question is what is the point of that? Why not just separate each different part into a separate track? I'm a big fan of listening to albums all the way through, but sometimes you just want to put on a few good songs... but on here you can't... kinda gets on my nerves... I'd rather they do something like separate all the different parts into individual tracks, but still have it flow together like a continual mix... and my point here is not that I don't like really long songs... some of my favorite songs are over 20 minutes long, but here the different parts just don't seem to fit together as one whole... so when I listen to one of the 20 minute tracks on here, it does feel like I'm listening to a bunch of different songs in one track, instead of one big song... shrug... |
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I don't mind, but if you want you can break them up yourself for your own enjoyment. |
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well i'd think they'd really have it arranged more by overall meaning of the song.. like if there are several movements with the same overall theme or meaning, and they all flow together well, they would be more likely to forge them into one long song, as to continue with the story in the lyrics.. but if they are just piecing the parts together just for the sake of having long songs, then that's pretty stupid. but if each song on the album very similar in meaning, or each section of a song is completely different than the last, then they might as well just split them all up.. but i see your point. i write songs with my band that are usually around 10 - 15 minutes, with parts that end up repeating various times throughout the length of the song.. so it really wouldn't be right to split them up, if that means that multiple songs would contain the same or very similar parts to them. but i suppose much of this problem is because of artistic self indulgence, or just from trying to hard to be different. |
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well see my main problem with this album is that the different parts DON'T seem to fit together very well in each track... so, it just kinda bugs me that they are together... ah well, the parts are for the most part real good, so I'll manage! :) |
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yes, and the different parts inside the tracks have titles too... a bit strange. ' _ ' maybe the point is this - it is for discouraging track-by-track listening and encourage full-album-listening... but they do the opposite too: on the Slow Riot For New Zero Kanada EP, there are two tracks but the transition is seemless and you feel like you're listening to one long track, not two! |
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Hm. Each track corresponds to a vinyl side. Same thing for Slow Riot For New Zero Kanada. |
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i hate when people pull shit like this, it is so GOD DAMN annoying and pretentious. |
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No i don't think so, i thought this album was marsterfully written and put together and it really dosen't bug me at all. |
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i got the impression they were just doing it to try to be different, but if what dariusgriffin said is true, then that could be why. as far as what Q4Z2X said, they don't do this with classical music. a good example is the four seasons. each individual season is one theme, but on every CD i've ever seen of it, it's broken down into separate tracks with those funny allegro names... so i don't buy that excuse. i don't know. i tend to give them a pass because they're music is good, but it does seem pointless and a bit irritating. |
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they just did it because they're stupid. |
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when will those crazy anarchists learn? |
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respect the artists choice |
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well if that's the case... *me puts out album that requires listener to hold down "fast forward" button for songs to be heard properly* |
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cool! |
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I always listen to an album in its entirety, so I don't care, really. |
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hevquip>> wouldn't that be ReallY stupid? |
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respect the artists choice i don't think we have to do that if we don't want to. i respect their music, but i have to disagree (does that necessarily imply disrespect?) with their decision to layout their albums like this, without an explanation. |
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why would they have to explain their decisions for 'layouting' but not for their music? |
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you can respectfully disagree, but you have to respect their choice, explaned or not |
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the reality is they probably did not, + do not care about your listening experience, and maybe that's best |
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if you want music to be engineered to please, turn on an easy rock radio station |
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I agree... split those fuckers up. For all the brilliant moments in their music, I think there's tons of self concious bland blah. Of course it's just my opinion, but the ''listen to it as a whole, it flows maaan'' just doesn't fly with me. All these different parts could be rearranged and hodgepodged, and it wouldn't matter, it wouldn't make any less sense. The Chaos Theory > pretentious structure anyday of the week. Let me skip around like a kid in a candy store! I like those early Soft Machine albums where you'd get a million short little songs running together like some cornucopia of wicked hot beats and tunes. Fun to randomize, too. |
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I couldn't care shit! So no, I don't have an opinion about it at all really, especially since we're talking about one of my favourite albums. I don't really see how it's pretentious either. |
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Because different is pretentious. |
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Tell me about it :/ |
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Well, it seems to me GYBE have their heads firmly implanted in their butts, and it's grating. Not that they aren't great. Pretentious was a poor word anyway, it's admittedly overrused... everybody in the world is pretentious. Boring would be more apt in this case. *the following post was all opinion! |
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Erm, that should be the PRECEEDING post was all opinion... now I'm being pretentious, worrying about my grammar! |
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Get off your pedestal already! |
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they don't have to at all. but as it stands now, what they did just seems annoying and therefore my opinion is that i'd rather it not be that way. however, they may have done it for a 'good' reason which i don't realize, which if they somehow dissiminated that information would have me change my mind. i realize they probably don't care, and that's fine, i barely care myself. i just got the impression from -crazone's comment that we weren't allowed to have an opinion that differed from the artist's. -crazone: i hereby respectfully disagree with their decision to layout their tracks the way they did. |
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gimme a break, different for the sake of being different in this case screams wannabe to me. but maybe thats just me trying to stifle a group's artistic impulses! |
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