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http://www.bushflash.com/pl_lo.html |
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I'm pretty sure the Brits have used depleted uranium shells too, but we have since stopeed -- not trying to defend the UK or anything And we know this shit just since the end of 2000, they didn´t said a thing before. Fuck, during that time I was in Kosovo, but they said to us that they didn´t used this ammunition in our area. By the way, the US are now trying to make mini-nukes, so that they can use that as a tactical weapon. I think they should show those pictures to everybody, because that will happen if nobody will stop that. When the US will have those mini-nukes, there won´t be long time untill a lot of other nations will get that shit, too. Now, that´s a great outlook for the Future! |
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pretty fuk'd up, yeah |
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shit. that really distrubed me |
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if only I had a sniper rifle.... |
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ehh |
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I couldn't have said it better myself. |
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I was thinking about that the other day. Remember the Washington sniper? Protection against someone with a real agenda is nearly impossible. I know it's a particularly horrible thing to say but I'm truely angered by the fact that random cranks like that guy can blow away inocent civilians when there are a plethora of such individuals to take out... |
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I got this link from a friend and DAM did I get sick or WHAT!!??This type of shit just make me hate those top freemason goverment bitches even more. fuck illuminati and fuck the bush administration. fuck m all. You know i dont hate americans i got mad love for you... i just hate those devils at the top, destroying the world. This is a quote from my friend from Croatia: "And we know this shit just since the end of 2000, they didn´t said a thing before. Fuck, during that time I was in Kosovo, but they said to us that they didn´t used this ammunition in our area. By the way, the US are now trying to make mini-nukes, so that they can use that as a tactical weapon. I think they should show those pictures to everybody, because that will happen if nobody will stop that. When the US will have those mini-nukes, there won´t be long time untill a lot of other nations will get that shit, too. Now, that´s a great outlook for the Future!" |
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yeah, true dat! It'd be different if their infantile sniper activites actually were directed at someone a bit more important, say, for instance, ah, let's say George W Bush just for the fuck of it. |
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Tactical Nukes are really nasty as the comparatively small area of destruction means there is none of the stigma associated with "proper" nuclear war. However, the bombsight and the surrounding few miles get all the unpleasent effects of a normal nuclear bomb, not to mention run off of radiation into rivers etc. that can affect people miles downstream :-/ |
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oh my god..... i... i am not just shocked by this. i am REPULSED. OUTRAGED. this... this is SICK. it's disgusting, it's cruel, and it's downright unholy. *is speechless* i feel terrible.... sick even.... |
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yes. join the club |
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What a stupid flash animation. Boring visuals, the music choice was really uninspired. Basically it was all a pile of shit anyway...ok so DU was used, but the increase in cancer rates in Iraq is more due to the carcenogenic agents and chemical weapons the Hussain used on his own people. Tactical Nuclear weapons are more a deterrent (publicity stunt) to fool the American people who are getting scared of China, Korea etc. |
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Ho ho! I thought it was pretty silly too.. |
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what were you doin in kosovo? |
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One of the many articles published on the net....the word cluster bomb mean anything to you? |
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Yes Cluster Bombs are cool...when I grow up I want to use them myself. Basically I don't really care...my aim in life is to eat, drink, fuck and be merry. Selfish? Probably...Do I care? No... |
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Depleated Uranium is about as harmless as UV A & B rays from the sun. Sorry |
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Funny that melonoma is a cancer, my father died of it...as for DU its well and good just feel free to try and sell it as the next wonderbread to the veterens suffering from Gulf War Syndrome and see how far you get with your line of reasoning |
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Fuck yeah the cluster bombs are cool, the bomblets look like cans of fizzy drinks that kids want to take them home and blow their whole families up with, talk about a gift that keeps on giving |
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If they had something important to say, they wouldn't wrap it up in such shockcore-like propoganda. LOOK AT ALL THE MANGLED BABIES AND NASTY MUSIC AND RED WRITING! IT MUST BE TRUE! |
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which is why we search on google to verify their claims. |
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Because a Google search, too, is reliable. |
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Oh you mean propaganda like 1. Saddam is a threat to the world peace 2. He's actively building and set to deploy WMDs 3. He is directly responsible for WTO bombings 4. He's arming terrorists with WMD and nukes You mean that kind of propaganda? Yeah the President of the World's God Police and his ex-imperalist nation's lapdog of a lackey Prime Minister said it over and over again so gosh darn it must be true! |
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when you know how to differentiate between reliable, authoratative sources and blatant propaganda, yes it is. |
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AK47 - what are you talking about? All I said was it was presented in a propoganda-like way, thus I was suspicious of it. No need to get worked up. TonyFish - can you be 100% sure that one source is reliable? Really? |
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It does throw around a lot of statistics without citing any sources. |
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of course not but you can be reasonably sure. I wrote a paper on online information validation a while back. I'll post it when I'm next near my desktop. |
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i was going to say the same thing. i don't doubt that DU is harmful but i'd like to at least see the sources from which these people are getting their statistics. Just because something is distributed freely on the internet, doesn't necessarily make it true. in fact, i would wager that, since their sources are suspiciously absent, their statistics are probably exaggerated. but if anyone can find some reliable sources, i'd be interested in reading the original articles. |
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i have looked over the entire bushflash site and could find no bibliography citing any information sources. I did find, however, an area where you can donate money and a disclaimer that: "All funds recieved via donations and store sales are used exclusively for the maintenance of this site. "Maintenance", in this case, includes, but is not limited to: 1. Creation of animation 2. Writing HTML 3. Creation of bitmap images for use in said site and animations. 4. Purchase of web hosting services 5. Purchase of software/hardware that allows continued operation of said site, and the activities listed in Items 1-3, above" the phrase "...but not limited to" i find quite suspicious. even though the guy claims that a statement showing all expenditures is available upon request. there is also a note at the bottom of his page saying "I AM FOR HIRE- RELATIVELY CHEAP! DROP ME A LINE FOR PRICES AND DETAILS!" just gotta be careful who you believe because EVERYONE has an agenda. |
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The Royal Society considered the effects negligable in their 8 page report. http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/files/statfiles/document-168.pdf they did mention that prolonged heavy exposure could be unhealthy, but was not proven. This would be pertinent to those handling uranium munitions manufacturing daily for months at a time. ------ the sum was, no health risks proven, but more science will say for sure to what degree it is safe. |
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oooh THE ROYAL SOCIETY... just their name leaves me brimming me with confidence about their objectivity and their compassion for the plight of the victims... |
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quite. Also given that the UK play a part in this.. I'd rather see the findings of an international commission or something. |
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well it's actually a pretty informative article. even if they are not purely objective, they admit that there could be health issues but they point out the FACT that to determine health risks such as increased instance of cancers, longitudinal studies must be conducted. or at least, studies conducted in a greater time frame that just a few months or years. in otherwords, it is far to soon to determine that any supposed increase in cancer rates is a direct result of use of DU. it may well be, but as there is no real evidence, it makes the statistics presented in that flash animation highly suspect. |
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yeah so let's have it. it's an interesting debate that warrants greater research. if you find anything, I, for one, would be interested in reading it. are there any articles on Reuters or anything? they are supposed to be non biased... |
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Okay one last time... The DU...burn and turned to powder that became a part of the desert landscape and dust which is then ingested and inhaled... Is that a long enough exposure? Ingesting and Inhaling it?...having it swimming inside your body? Dr. Helen Caldicott's book "THE NEW NUCLEAR DANGER" has vast sections dedicated to DU, and is thoroughly researched and refrenced to the eyeballs..if you can really be bothered..feel free to go down to your local book store and read the Appendix and list of sources...right there on the shelf...turn the book over and go through the last few pages...it's all there... here are her credentials.. The world s leading spokesperson for the antinuclear movement, Dr. Helen Caldicott is the founder of the Nobel Prize winning Physicians for Social Responsibility, and herself a nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize. Both the Smithsonian Institute and Ladies Home Journal named her one of the most Influential Women of the Twentieth Century, and she has honorary degrees from nineteen universities. She divides her time between Australia and the United States, where she has devoted the last thirty years to an international campaign to educate the public about the medical hazards of the nuclear age. |
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i think i saw bat boy in there..... |
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Hey I'm writing a thesis here. No time. |
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Crazy stuff. Heh, not to be insensitive, but what's the artist/track being played during that vid? |
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it says at the end doesn't it? |
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fuck, i didn't watch the whole thing. i don't like to see deformed babies |
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for those still interested: |
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"The world s leading spokesperson for the antinuclear movement" sorry, just as biased as anyone. |
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I wasn't posting them as examples of authoritative sources and yes you are right all of the links in this thread are biased to some extent. I have yet to see anything official or unbiased on the mater. |
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i swear i;ve seen at least two of those deformed baby pictures before on |
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this thread has WAY too much anger for me now. |
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What happened to the good old days when we killed eachother with blunt objects? |
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