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offline celloncllone from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:04 [#00953186]
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Borderline Personality Disorder...

would be interested how other people live with it, turns out
i apparently have it...and i thought just beind depressed
was bad.....well i am officially a nutcase...

so, the question tho is, you know like how did it happen, or
when? have you recovered, stuff like that...just how people
deal with these things...


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-11-17 06:05 [#00953188]
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id hate to ask ya.. but what is it?


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:06 [#00953190]
Points: 8864 Status: Regular



yo... youd actually listen to what those fuckin quacks tell
you? so what if your depressed, almost every goddamn person
between the age of 12 and 25 gets depressed or has been for
long peroids of time, its called life.

and how is it that your borderline personality? that just
sounds like a lot of mumbo jumbo bullshit to me. something
else to throw drugs or therapy at.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-11-17 06:07 [#00953194]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular | Followup to REFLEX: #00953190



.. thats not really something positive and helpfull is it :\


 

offline celloncllone from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:08 [#00953195]
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i just started reading up on it myself, not 100% sure....

but it is a combination of things, like...to suffer BPD
means you are suffering from Depression aaaaaaand fear of
abandonment(anxiety maybe) aaaaaand etc etc, so i dunno, its
a all the right ingredients for a headfuck like me...

it just surprised me that 97% of the symptoms were exactly
what i was experiencing and how i was experiencing it.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:08 [#00953196]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker



Im Bi-Polar and it rally shows.



 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:08 [#00953197]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker



really *


 

offline celloncllone from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:09 [#00953200]
Points: 849 Status: Regular | Followup to REFLEX: #00953190



dude, it was a process i started going all weird a few years
ago....4th year now....and it's been okay until now, because
i am getting physical with people...my fuse just blows too
quickly...


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:09 [#00953201]
Points: 8864 Status: Regular



JAroen: no.. but uh... this just sounds like every other
person you talk to, everyone has or has had problems, I
dunno if I would really listen to what others say about you,
especially something like this. I still want to know exaclty
how is it that this person has this disorder, what
constitutes him to actually have it.

Im not being a dick here man im just thinking that its
bullshit that they would tell him he has this


 

offline celloncllone from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:10 [#00953202]
Points: 849 Status: Regular



hehe.
but seriously, i am not worried about me....i am in my own
books fine the way i am, but i a afraid of what i won't be
able to control when i snap again....some things you can't
undo


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:11 [#00953203]
Points: 8864 Status: Regular



OK - so what EXACLTY is it that makes you have this disorder
what are the symptoms? because I feel depressed I feel those
things sometimes, often actually - but I dont let it bother
me, It maybe seems on how you precieve it all?


 

offline celloncllone from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:12 [#00953205]
Points: 849 Status: Regular



example symptoms:::

A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal
relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked
impulsivity beginning by early adulthood and present in a
variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the
following:
Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note:
Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered
in (5).
A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal
relationships characterized by alternating between extremes
of idealization and devaluation. This is called "splitting."


 

offline mortsto-x from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-11-17 06:13 [#00953206]
Points: 8062 Status: Lurker | Followup to REFLEX: #00953201



If celloncllone has this diagnosis he better listen more to
the doctors than to us. That's what I think.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:13 [#00953207]
Points: 8864 Status: Regular



Diagnoses of BPD are based on three categories of criteria.
The first, and most important, category, comprises two
signs:

* the absence of psychosis (i.e., the ability to perceive
reality accurately)
* impaired ego integration - a diffuse and internally
contradictory concept of self. Kernberg is quoted as saying,
"Borderlines can describe themselves for five hours without
your getting a realistic picture of what they're like."

The second category is termed "nonspecific signs" and
includes such things as low anxiety tolerance, poor impulse
control, and an undeveloped or poor ability to enjoy work or
hobbies in a meaningful way.


 

offline celloncllone from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:13 [#00953208]
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The world of a BP, like that of a child, is split into
heroes and villains. A child emotionally, the BP cannot
tolerate human inconsistencies and ambiguities; he cannot
reconcile anther is good and bad qualities into a constant
coherent understanding of another person. At any particular
moment, one is either Good or EVIL. There is no in-between;
no gray area....people are idolized one day; totally
devalued and dismissed the next.

Normal people are ambivalent and can experience two
contradictory states atone time; BPs shift back and forth,
entirely unaware of one feeling state while in the other.

When the idealized person finally disappoints (as we all do,
sooner or later) the borderline must drastically restructure
his one-dimensional conceptionalization. Either the idol is
banished to the dungeon, or the borderline banishes himself
in other to preserve the all-good image of the other person.


Splitting is intended to shield the BP from a barrage of
contradictory feelings and images and from the anxiety of
trying to reconcile those images. But splitting often
achieves the opposite effect. The frays in the BP's
personality become rips, and the sense of his own identity
and the identity of others shifts even more dramatically and
frequently.



 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:14 [#00953209]
Points: 8864 Status: Regular



I dunno though just because these things happen doesnt mean
your wrong in the head or that you should have meds huh? you
know that bullshit right?


 

offline celloncllone from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:15 [#00953210]
Points: 849 Status: Regular



^^^^^^^^
that black and white thinking is exactly what gets me in
trouble, i get so pent up that i start physically
confronting people when they won't get out of my face.


 

offline celloncllone from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:16 [#00953213]
Points: 849 Status: Regular



reflex, i thought that too,
so does everyone that knows me,

but it has been getting worse progressively 4 years
now...for all i know i'll stab someone in the eye next week
if they stare at me the wrong way....you know.....i am
fucking tense man.


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:18 [#00953216]
Points: 8864 Status: Regular



uhhh. yeah thats a big problem so what good... get in their
face .. I dunno if this is all serious or what cause to me
it just seems like people tagged a couple words onto
behaviour that doesnt seem too out of the ordinary. Either
way I dont need to judge, cause from here its easy as hell,
but its not cool, either way once again where are you from
cause as far as I know on the subject there are only a
certain amount of Mental Health offices in North America
devoted to dealing with this "disorder".


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-11-17 06:19 [#00953217]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular



the first step is to acnowledge you are ill...

theres obviously something wrong with you/... cant say more
about it becuz i dont know anything about psychologic
disorders..

best luck tho man


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-17 06:29 [#00953228]
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I've got to say I tend to agree with Rephlex here... a lot
of symptoms of psychological "diseases" most people
(especially young adult males) suffer at one time or
another. If you can deal with it, it doesn't need to be a
problem.

Although, new research shows that this is also the
demographic that are most reluctant to ask for help, which
is probably why they suicide so much...


 


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