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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:04 [#00953186]
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Borderline Personality Disorder...
would be interested how other people live with it, turns out i apparently have it...and i thought just beind depressed was bad.....well i am officially a nutcase...
so, the question tho is, you know like how did it happen, or when? have you recovered, stuff like that...just how people deal with these things...
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-17 06:05 [#00953188]
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id hate to ask ya.. but what is it?
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:06 [#00953190]
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yo... youd actually listen to what those fuckin quacks tell you? so what if your depressed, almost every goddamn person between the age of 12 and 25 gets depressed or has been for long peroids of time, its called life.
and how is it that your borderline personality? that just sounds like a lot of mumbo jumbo bullshit to me. something else to throw drugs or therapy at.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-17 06:07 [#00953194]
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.. thats not really something positive and helpfull is it :\
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:08 [#00953195]
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i just started reading up on it myself, not 100% sure....
but it is a combination of things, like...to suffer BPD means you are suffering from Depression aaaaaaand fear of abandonment(anxiety maybe) aaaaaand etc etc, so i dunno, its a all the right ingredients for a headfuck like me...
it just surprised me that 97% of the symptoms were exactly what i was experiencing and how i was experiencing it.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:08 [#00953196]
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Im Bi-Polar and it rally shows.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:08 [#00953197]
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really *
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:09 [#00953200]
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dude, it was a process i started going all weird a few years ago....4th year now....and it's been okay until now, because i am getting physical with people...my fuse just blows too quickly...
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:09 [#00953201]
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JAroen: no.. but uh... this just sounds like every other person you talk to, everyone has or has had problems, I dunno if I would really listen to what others say about you, especially something like this. I still want to know exaclty how is it that this person has this disorder, what constitutes him to actually have it.
Im not being a dick here man im just thinking that its bullshit that they would tell him he has this
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:10 [#00953202]
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hehe. but seriously, i am not worried about me....i am in my own books fine the way i am, but i a afraid of what i won't be able to control when i snap again....some things you can't undo
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:11 [#00953203]
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OK - so what EXACLTY is it that makes you have this disorder what are the symptoms? because I feel depressed I feel those things sometimes, often actually - but I dont let it bother me, It maybe seems on how you precieve it all?
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:12 [#00953205]
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example symptoms:::
A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in (5).
A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation. This is called "splitting."
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-11-17 06:13 [#00953206]
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If celloncllone has this diagnosis he better listen more to the doctors than to us. That's what I think.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:13 [#00953207]
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Diagnoses of BPD are based on three categories of criteria. The first, and most important, category, comprises two signs:
* the absence of psychosis (i.e., the ability to perceive reality accurately)
* impaired ego integration - a diffuse and internally contradictory concept of self. Kernberg is quoted as saying, "Borderlines can describe themselves for five hours without your getting a realistic picture of what they're like."
The second category is termed "nonspecific signs" and includes such things as low anxiety tolerance, poor impulse control, and an undeveloped or poor ability to enjoy work or hobbies in a meaningful way.
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:13 [#00953208]
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The world of a BP, like that of a child, is split into heroes and villains. A child emotionally, the BP cannot tolerate human inconsistencies and ambiguities; he cannot reconcile anther is good and bad qualities into a constant coherent understanding of another person. At any particular moment, one is either Good or EVIL. There is no in-between; no gray area....people are idolized one day; totally devalued and dismissed the next.
Normal people are ambivalent and can experience two contradictory states atone time; BPs shift back and forth, entirely unaware of one feeling state while in the other.
When the idealized person finally disappoints (as we all do, sooner or later) the borderline must drastically restructure his one-dimensional conceptionalization. Either the idol is banished to the dungeon, or the borderline banishes himself in other to preserve the all-good image of the other person.
Splitting is intended to shield the BP from a barrage of contradictory feelings and images and from the anxiety of trying to reconcile those images. But splitting often achieves the opposite effect. The frays in the BP's personality become rips, and the sense of his own identity and the identity of others shifts even more dramatically and frequently.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:14 [#00953209]
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I dunno though just because these things happen doesnt mean your wrong in the head or that you should have meds huh? you know that bullshit right?
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:15 [#00953210]
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^^^^^^^^ that black and white thinking is exactly what gets me in trouble, i get so pent up that i start physically confronting people when they won't get out of my face.
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-11-17 06:16 [#00953213]
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reflex, i thought that too, so does everyone that knows me,
but it has been getting worse progressively 4 years now...for all i know i'll stab someone in the eye next week if they stare at me the wrong way....you know.....i am fucking tense man.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-17 06:18 [#00953216]
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uhhh. yeah thats a big problem so what good... get in their face .. I dunno if this is all serious or what cause to me it just seems like people tagged a couple words onto behaviour that doesnt seem too out of the ordinary. Either way I dont need to judge, cause from here its easy as hell, but its not cool, either way once again where are you from cause as far as I know on the subject there are only a certain amount of Mental Health offices in North America devoted to dealing with this "disorder".
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-17 06:19 [#00953217]
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the first step is to acnowledge you are ill...
theres obviously something wrong with you/... cant say more about it becuz i dont know anything about psychologic disorders..
best luck tho man
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-17 06:29 [#00953228]
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I've got to say I tend to agree with Rephlex here... a lot of symptoms of psychological "diseases" most people (especially young adult males) suffer at one time or another. If you can deal with it, it doesn't need to be a problem.
Although, new research shows that this is also the demographic that are most reluctant to ask for help, which is probably why they suicide so much...
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