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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 01:17 [#00946692]
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ever feel emotionally frustrated by the restrictions of electronica ?
how close have you come to picking up a mic and writing "songs*"
*i am no way saying that an electronic composition is not a song... i just mean vocals and shit
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 01:19 [#00946696]
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i think if i had hardcore fans, i would be hung drawn and quartered for writing the jazz / loungy / electronica that im currently writing...
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-11-12 01:23 [#00946700]
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do you mean with frustrated, like, you want to write a song but just can't..?
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-11-12 01:24 [#00946701]
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i wanna do rap music that's it really
i'm not very emotionally connected to my msuic, i think it shows, sadly.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-11-12 01:24 [#00946702]
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There are no restrictions in electronica.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-11-12 01:27 [#00946709]
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thats why its good to actually write in other styles :)
I like to write in "classical" styles... orchestral instruments etc... its just, completely different from electronica.
I have always wondered what I could come up with, writing a "pop" song. Not really pop... but like... rock. Verse chorus kinda stuff. When I have more time I will...
if I ever had fans that got pissed off at me for writing in different styles... Id say to hell with them. Who the fuck are they to tell you what you can write or not?
People get too possesive with their favorite music.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 01:28 [#00946710]
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ok... let me rephrase this...
ok... do you feel frustrated doing INSTRUMENTAL music... and how close do you come to picking up a mic and recording vocals.. (proper coherant vocals) for your tracks.
me myself, im scared of mics, but im overcoming it out of necessity... i need to say what i need to say... instrumentals used to be enough, but now they just arent
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 01:30 [#00946712]
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im with you on that one zues... i guess what im asking here, is about verse chorus verse kind of stuff...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-11-12 01:32 [#00946714]
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well, I am writing a track right now, and Im gonna add vocals... but its going to be a female singer instead.
I know my voice sucks. I can sing the notes, but I just dont have a good singing voice... so I rather just get someone who can actually sing good, to sing.
Hey, its still my music, my lyrics...
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-11-12 01:38 [#00946716]
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yeah that's my problem most of the stuff i write is just trying to impress people, it's bullshit to be honest.
i like doing it though.
i'm just never gonna lie and say that i only make it for myself coz i just really want to entertain people. in different ways, which is why i write an lj that's always trying to be funny rather than just notes to myself. it's also why i draw people pictures when i'm at their houses -- that kind of shit.
it's really dumb and i know that but hey i never said i wasn't.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-12 01:48 [#00946721]
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Ha ha, confession time: I nearly dated a girl I wasn't that fussed over, simply because she was a great jazz singer and I thought I could use her on my tracks.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-11-12 01:51 [#00946724]
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hhahaha
a true musician :)
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 01:51 [#00946728]
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i know how that is... if i meet a girl thats a musician, and also incredibly talented... i kinda fall in love instantly haha
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 01:53 [#00946732]
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od i dont think that sucks at all... your an entertainer... and music is dominated by the entertainers...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-11-12 01:57 [#00946737]
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as long as youre happy, thats all that counts.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-12 02:12 [#00946751]
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sing and you will become happy
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 02:13 [#00946752]
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yes, but im not sure that i dare share my soppy ballad about love lost.
heh
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-11-12 02:16 [#00946756]
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"you went away the other day i reached for you, you turned away, i felt my heart sink into the floor, as you walked out, and slammed the door"?
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 02:16 [#00946758]
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you want me to share the lyrics?
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 02:19 [#00946759]
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it is kinda like that lol
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-11-12 02:20 [#00946760]
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sure man
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-11-12 02:28 [#00946764]
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oh man... :)
I have a hard time with it just because of the fact that, the first project you do in Mix class, is mix a song called "Where did it all go wrong"? It is such a crappy student band, bad recording, HORRIBLLY out of tune singer...
"where did it all go wrong, were we destined to loss all aloooooOOOoonnngggg"
uhg.
Sorry, heheh.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-11-12 02:29 [#00946765]
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lose*
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 02:30 [#00946767]
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serious.. haha... oh man... its hard tho yknow... words are so hard to come by...
i think i might change that whole "wrong" thing
i might change it... CHANGE IT ALLLLL!!!
:)
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 02:31 [#00946768]
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ok now im embarressed (deletes message)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-11-12 02:33 [#00946769]
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hahah :)
its cool man
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-12 02:52 [#00946779]
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BTW, Sim Gishel has email ;)
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 02:56 [#00946783]
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cheers ceri... quite a nice track, very oriental :) should be fun... i'm working on it now, my only issue would be that its in major.. but then again thats just me :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-12 02:59 [#00946786]
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Feel free to tweak the melody if you want, nothing is set in stone in it...
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-12 03:17 [#00946790]
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I write under three names, one for ambient, one for glitchy/noise/IDM stuff, one for guitar-based songs. It's the only way I can stay focussed.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-12 11:52 [#00947400]
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nice topic :)
ill get crazy ideas in my head sometimes.. like i want to jump into a rock band or something.. but yeah i must say i love being in gate !
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Portland
from San Diego (United States) on 2003-11-12 12:00 [#00947422]
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i dont see an y restrictions in electronica. i get all of the emotion i want out of the songs i write.
on the other hand i do like to write songs with lyrics as well, although they are completely different than what i normally write.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:05 [#00947434]
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heheh theres been heaps of times ryan and i have felt like throwing our stuff out the window.. took us 2.. maybe 3 years to understand midi properly :D
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:06 [#00947438]
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i still dont understand the mixer :[
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Aphexisatwin
from your mom's room (United States) on 2003-11-12 12:17 [#00947461]
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I'd like to try my hand at IDM rap
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-11-12 12:22 [#00947475]
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i never feel restricted by instrumental music its easier ive found you dont have to make a profound statement in your songs that lyrics contain
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:24 [#00947480]
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i have two new works in progresses, for xanpha... my friend greg said one sounded like a motown track and the other one was perfect circley... hmmm... i was wondering when my soul and rnb influences would start appearing :)
ill post them in a few days... i couldnt record vocals last night because of noise restrictions (i live in an apartment block)
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:25 [#00947482]
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maybe im too emotional... or im just going nuts.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:25 [#00947484]
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hmm noice
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:26 [#00947485]
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i'm betraying idm-dom!
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:26 [#00947486]
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or... im selling out before i was ever even cool :)
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:27 [#00947489]
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no not at all, youve got to write from the soul :D
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:28 [#00947491]
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haha!
that reminds me of something
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:36 [#00947507]
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ontopic.. im very absorbed in what i do, what sounds do to each other etc..
so yeah lot of what i do will be left when it has achieved a sound.. then ill move on. its been accumulating for some time tho and i think im getting rather good at it :]
what it comes down to is that a lot of my music is very personal - and i dont expect it to be widely embraced. those times that it has been appreciated in live situations, i wont forget !
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:39 [#00947514]
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yeah... i see what you mean, all my old xanpha stuff has been written from the heart. and i've always managed to put my feelings into sound... but it doesnt feel like enough anymore / or it feels like it could be so more. and i think my move into songwriting also offers something new and exciting for me personally.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:42 [#00947518]
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thats where it is then - charge it!
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:44 [#00947522]
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i reckon youll be back soon enough :]
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:44 [#00947523]
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=] would love to have a late nights mix... wanna hear the crazy things you could do to my voice! :)
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:45 [#00947525]
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hehe i could try :]
how many times have we discussed having a mixdown?
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-11-12 12:46 [#00947528]
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00947525 times.
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