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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-09 16:24 [#00942768]
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for me the best definition ive heard about our music was New Tones. its good , while IDM, known as Independent Dsnce Music does not include artists like Steve Reich , szkieve , susumu yokota , and many others....
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-09 16:25 [#00942773]
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electronica is my favourite
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-11-09 16:26 [#00942774]
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doesn't IDM stand for "intelligent dance music?"
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Dozier
from United States on 2003-11-09 16:27 [#00942776]
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i'm also partial to the term 'electronica'
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-11-09 16:32 [#00942783]
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ill say it again, idm was based off of journalism, NOT style.
thats why you get autechre and plaid lumped together. its because they are both on warp, even though style wise they are very different. so now every magazine likes to make connections. then they made connections with lesser known labels.
so now you have everyone spouting off how so and so is just a rip off of bigger warp acts. arovane sounds like autechre, etc. when i really dont even think that.
its not a definition of sound. its built on label association. sure they share similarities, but you could pin similarities down for lots of things.
all in all, i dont care. the people who whine about the name care too much. its like so what if it has a pompous name title? i could argue that "alternative rock" has one too.
i never expect genres to make sense literally, so why do people want this? its fighting a losing battle.
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_user
from rostov-on-don (Russia) on 2003-11-09 16:36 [#00942796]
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i usually using 'electronica'..... i don't care much about genres (i'm stuck in definition)
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_user
from rostov-on-don (Russia) on 2003-11-09 16:39 [#00942807]
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yeah.....all that terms like idm, drill'n'bass, electroclash,drum'n'bass made by journalists
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roer-ei
from Netherlands, The on 2003-11-09 16:42 [#00942811]
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i think the right answer that just covers it all is "it doesn't really matter that much"
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_user
from rostov-on-don (Russia) on 2003-11-09 16:45 [#00942814]
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from afxfaq:
A:11b "What is 'braindance'?"
According to the Rephlex Records Web site (http://www.rephlex.com/):
"When Rephlex started in 1991 people said that the type of music we released
was called 'techno.' People always say that 'things aren't what they used to
be.' Well, the same could be said for techno.
"As the years progressed, the media invented more and more terms to describe
the various sub-genres of music ('intellegent happy hardcore,' 'psychedelic
handbag,' 'progressive bluntcore,' 'uplifting trance,' etc.). To be honest
with you this made us confused about how we fit into the dance spectrum. So
we decided to invent 'braindance,' a genre that encompasses all known genres
-- to make things simpler.
"Braindance is not so much a style of music but a way of life. It's a bit
hard to explain, but if you buy all our releases you should have a better
grasp of the concept."
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-09 16:48 [#00942819]
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the idm label belongs with the sad cliquey people who hang out in record shops nodding their heads up & down all day and grunting 'yeah sgreat' every 3 seconds wearing wooly hats and sunglasses when its dark
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-09 16:52 [#00942829]
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electronic music works quite well.
and I wouldn't put Reich under that definition- he uses electronica, but it is just part of the full range of instruments he uses - in other words, electronica is just as important as any other instrument, no less but certainly no more.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-09 16:52 [#00942830]
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Keeeeeeeviiiiin!!!
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-09 16:52 [#00942831]
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the point is - im making site right now, we will have musicians on it , and we are thinking what we shoul dput on main page ....
IDM site ? New Tones ? Electronica ? simple word music is not enough here....i also dont care about stickers on music styles , but the NAME could be usefull as a simple and short description os music from my site.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-09 16:56 [#00942839]
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it depends on what kind of music is on your site.
if its all electronic, electronica could do the job.
"new tones" to me reeks as much of bullshit as "idm" - I would have no idea what you would mean by it.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-11-09 16:59 [#00942849]
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how about "electronic music"
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Herr cyanaTe
on 2003-11-09 17:00 [#00942854]
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Always thought that IDM was a fairly cringe worthy / patronising term (who came up with it anyway, tired music hacks?) to categorise our favoured bands/music.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-09 17:00 [#00942855]
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yes but some part of this music is not electronic - thats the problem
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handoverthecart
on 2003-11-09 17:07 [#00942880]
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yes i agree "electronic music" is probably the best term (perhaps slap on "experimental" as well in some cases but not all, to make a distinction between it and club-type dance music?)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-09 18:37 [#00942991]
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Dumbest acronym ever. Downright embarrasing to explain an electronic virgin. The I part, and the D part. So I generally just call it ''electronic'', and if they assume I mean Moby and Fatboy Slim... then fuck.
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AlfredPMcLovely
from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2003-11-09 18:50 [#00942998]
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electronic music is the way to go if you ask me, it easily encapsulates all the labels and what not and its gets the point across to people who want to know "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS NOISE"
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Ganymede
from Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on 2003-11-09 22:29 [#00943178]
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experimental/electronic
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Clic
on 2003-11-09 22:51 [#00943199]
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New Tones? That's pretty stupid sounding to me. IDM is a pretty generic term, as well.
Electronic music or what Ganymede said works just fine for me.
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-11-09 22:57 [#00943205]
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I don't know, IDM is fine with me....I just take the term as more listening oriented then dance-floor filler.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-11-09 23:41 [#00943239]
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im going to try and copy this poem i wrote about idm into here... it represents what I believe idm is.
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Its Deceived Me, Intellectually Devising Maniacal Intricacies, Deviating, Monstrous Instruments of Discolored Mercy.
Its Disfigured, Mechanical, Infinitely Destructive and Minimal, I Discovered Many Intricate Details, My Insides Desired More.
Inverted De-evolutions Manifesting Incredible Diversions, Moving Itself Downward, Making Individuals Destroy Masses. I Didn't Move, Inquiring Deeply >> My Instantly Distraught Mind.
It's Developed Many Interesting Divisions of Music, Moving Into Different Means, Ideas, Discoveries, Monstrosities.
IDM Doesn't Mean: Intelligent Dance Music... It Describes Music's Incredible Diversity.
Individuals Destroying Masses?
Intelligent Dance Music?
I Then Saw My Universe's Soul: Individual Creation.
ITS MUSIC.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-11-10 00:13 [#00943272]
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i say electronica
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Clic
on 2003-11-10 00:17 [#00943274]
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I say cheese.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-11-10 00:18 [#00943275]
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oh.
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Clic
on 2003-11-10 00:20 [#00943279]
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Come on, say it.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-11-10 00:21 [#00943280]
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im not so sure about it, how does it make you feel?
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Clic
on 2003-11-10 00:24 [#00943281]
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Gouda.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-11-10 00:25 [#00943282]
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intriguing
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nacmat
on 2003-11-10 01:28 [#00943322]
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I just say idm in the MB cos out in real life it sounds a bit snob...so there I say electronica
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-11-10 01:55 [#00943357]
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i use the word braindance
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2003-11-10 06:35 [#00943589]
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check this out
ishkur
Electronica/Experimental is fine.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-11-10 06:49 [#00943608]
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i hate it when somebody listens to a song they dont like then descrbes it as 'noise', even when the song is as far from real noise music as it can be....
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nacmat
on 2003-11-10 06:55 [#00943612]
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english---------spanish
intelligent------inteligente dance --------- baile music---------- musica
idm------------- mib
musica inteligente de baile
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-10 09:12 [#00943752]
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well said
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-11-10 09:16 [#00943757]
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it's as good as any otherr if you think about it.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-10 09:20 [#00943760]
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not really because "intelligent" "dance" and "music" already have meaning in english. If you interpret it as the meaningless sound symbols they really are, it works as an arbritrary name, but even then there's 7 syllables when "smuf" is an adequate unused english word with merely 1 syllable. Even if we used this word people would be too stupid to collectively create a single definition anyway.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-10 09:25 [#00943762]
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i call it random egotistical self absorbed cockgobbling noises
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-11-10 09:27 [#00943765]
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i call it music you wouldnt like
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-11-10 09:28 [#00943767]
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or electronic jazz
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-10 09:33 [#00943774]
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electrojazz!!!!111!!!!!!!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-10 09:34 [#00943776]
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elclectilectrojazz!!!!!!!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-10 09:34 [#00943778]
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I MEAN I MEAN eclectilectrojazz!!!!!!!
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-11-10 09:36 [#00943783]
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electroliticjazz
(pure metal plating music)
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rez
from here on 2003-11-10 10:08 [#00943828]
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english--------- dutch
intelligent------ intelligente dance --------- dans music---------- muziek
idm------------- idm
intelligente dansmuziek
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