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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-09 07:55 [#00941990]
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For archiving purposes what would you recommend? I'm not sure the extra quality is worth the extra storage space required...
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Aphexisatwin
from your mom's room (United States) on 2003-11-09 07:56 [#00941993]
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quality over quantity,..... what I always say
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-09 07:58 [#00941998]
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hmm I suppose I'm gonna have to buy me a new dedicated mp3 hard drive. 40Gig ain't gonna cut it
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-11-09 08:00 [#00942000]
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192kbps
there is a big difference in sound quality. but 160 is acceptable.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-11-09 08:00 [#00942001]
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yeah, go 192.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-11-09 08:00 [#00942002]
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192k at least, though 160 is acceptable for some music
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-09 08:03 [#00942003]
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thing is I'll be using the mp3s on my seperates system so that does it. What's good in hard drives nowadays?
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Aphexisatwin
from your mom's room (United States) on 2003-11-09 08:04 [#00942006]
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heh IMO 200 gig hard drives wouldn't cut it..... there's just sooo much good shit out there
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Aphexisatwin
from your mom's room (United States) on 2003-11-09 08:04 [#00942007]
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and porn....... can't forget porn......
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-11-09 08:04 [#00942008]
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i have 2 80GB seagate barracudas, never had problems
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-09 08:05 [#00942009]
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don't need it :)
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uzim
on 2003-11-09 08:10 [#00942019]
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i'd go with 160 myself...
i don't think there is that much loss in mp3s.
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uzim
on 2003-11-09 08:11 [#00942020]
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and sometimes even CDs have bad or just average sound quality.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-09 08:40 [#00942065]
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i encode everything in ~ 230 kbps vbr
is that stupid?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-09 08:50 [#00942081]
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FLAC!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-09 08:55 [#00942089]
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For serious archival purposes mister Dobbin is correct - only a lossless compression like FLAC will cut it. But Lame VBR (--alt-preset standard) encoded files are this " close so that's what I use. I was using Ogg because it's marginally better but my new MP3 CD player can't play them soooo...
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-11-09 09:03 [#00942101]
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yeah - when it comes to technical issues, fleety is right about 99.9% of the time. :D
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rez
from here on 2003-11-09 09:04 [#00942106]
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i don't care what kbps, as long as it's not below 128
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-11-09 09:06 [#00942112]
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as long as you don't use anything lower, anything should be okay.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-11-09 09:08 [#00942116]
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use variable bitrate. (VBR)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-09 09:08 [#00942117]
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:: copies and pastes the standard advice ::
The best mp3 encoder is Lame, with the RazorLame interface.
Best encoding options:
"--alt-preset standard" for normal music
"--alt-preset extreme" for shrill music with lots of high end you want to preserve
If you can get away with it though, use Ogg Vorbis, which gives better sounding smaller files in half the time.
And to get wav files off CD use EAC which gives you error free files (unless you've sandpapered your CDs).
EAC can also encode the files to MP3 using the Lame encoder but I prefer to do it in two steps because I am obsessive compulsive.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-09 09:09 [#00942118]
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WHEN HAVE I BEEN WRONG
;-)
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-09 09:12 [#00942119]
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nlogax .. shes not too special
what do ya like about her face that much?
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-11-09 09:15 [#00942124]
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that's EXACTLY what I use :)
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-11-09 09:16 [#00942126]
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hehe. I think there's another thread about that topic :)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-09 09:17 [#00942127]
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Phobes should take my post and put it on an FAQ page so I can stop posting it. It's a valuable community resource because it increases the proportion of well encoded files on SLSK!
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-11-09 09:18 [#00942130]
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yeha i cannae find it aanymuure moitee
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-11-09 13:46 [#00942487]
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what bitrate should I use in the General tab, as opposed to the VBR tab? Needless to say, I've set it to 320kbps on the VBR tab, but what is an appropriate bitrate for the general rate?
any thoughts, fleetmouse?
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-11-09 13:47 [#00942493]
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i got an e-mail saying i won an ipod today. it must be a scam orr a trrick orr orr... something, i can't have won, but damn it all looks so tempting, i wanna click that link.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-11-09 13:50 [#00942502]
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foo'
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-09 13:56 [#00942517]
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yeh, alt preset standard is the way forward
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-09 13:57 [#00942520]
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yes, 320 vbr
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-09 13:57 [#00942522]
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Go to the expert tab and check "only use custom options and use:
--alt-preset standard
for most music or
--alt-preset extreme
for really trebly noisy music
The rest of the encoding options will be ignored.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-11-09 15:36 [#00942676]
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I'll give it a try then. thanky wanky fleety ;)
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-11-09 15:54 [#00942724]
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nlogax: your cabbage patch/munchkin avatar is seriously disturbing/scaring me.
please consider changing it. thanks XOXOXOXOXO
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-11-09 15:55 [#00942726]
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great!
:)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-09 18:33 [#00942986]
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256 is nice. But most of the music I archive, I hardly ever listen to anyway, they don't justify anything more than 192, and usually 160 is fine.
Anything that's dear to me, has to be well over 192 though.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-09 18:36 [#00942990]
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You old hoarder - how many gigs of music ya got? I got 55 or thereabouts - gonna need a second 120 gig drive soon!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-09 18:40 [#00942992]
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Oh shit, it's embarrasing... many, many, many, many gigs, on many many CD-Rs. Some of which I'll probably never hear more than once, so it's not like I'd ever buy all this shit anyway.
To my right is every good track ever made, it seems... I don't know how I can sleep at night!
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