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offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-08 12:36 [#00941224]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker



yet another chocolate wheelchair thread

I just got the CD and man, those crappy 192k MP3s that were
floating around truly didn't do it justice - one of
snaresy's tricks is to use samples with lots of room tone /
reverb played alternately against very dry sounds, and the
MP3s completely lose that - everything gets flattened out.

So yeah, listening to the CD the songs are richer and make
more sense structurally somehow. Kewl.


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-11-08 12:52 [#00941254]
Points: 4630 Status: Lurker



welllll... i have a 320kbps rip which i woudln't call
flattened but i still don't like that album much. i wonder
if i could hear the difference to the real album but i guess
there simply is something wrong with me


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-08 12:57 [#00941258]
Points: 27795 Status: Regular



i should think with music like vsnares the high frequencies
being more frequently used it would make more of a
difference with a low bitrate encoding


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-11-08 13:03 [#00941262]
Points: 4630 Status: Lurker



yes it does, but usually 192k is sufficient.
and it's not a frequency thing 'cause mp3 cuts above 21khz
which noone can hear but ithe format has some
problems if the track is chopped up very much (fast drums,
like vs)
i have a nice stereo connected to my comp and in direct
comparison i never can tell the difference between a 160k
and a cd. i get my files at least with 256k just to be on
the safe side


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-08 13:14 [#00941282]
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192k is sufficient for some kinds of music until you a/b the
file and the CD on good equipment. Even if it's slow pop
music, if it's well recorded and mastered, the CD will have
detail and presence that you lose in the MP3, like the
breathiness of the singer's voice etc.

I'm extremely picky and the fact that people are getting
conditioned to the sounds of 128k AAC files and 192k MP3s
scares me - I like CD quality audio!


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-08 13:32 [#00941313]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker



Also I love the Kit Kat bar on the back of the CD - very
clever if you happen to remember the old jingle:

"Gimme a break, gimme a break..."


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-08 13:59 [#00941345]
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presumably he wrote abomination street especially for me. oh
you're only too kind


 

offline D-Steak from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2003-11-08 14:00 [#00941346]
Points: 1376 Status: Regular



shoot, i hope im able to find this album soon, you guys act
like its very nice.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-08 14:07 [#00941358]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to earthleakage: #00941345



Dobbin, where's your avatar from? I was gonna say something
about Coronation Street when I started to suspect that was
where your avatar was from - the palaeolithic black and
white era of Coronation Street when the characters had tails
and ate raw meat and berries.

Someone should put out a compilation of songs inspired by
Coronation Street - there's "Dierdre's a Slag" by the Toy
Dolls, snaresy's Abomination Street - surely there are
others...

D-Steak, it's a very fun album, right up there with Higgins
which is his other high water mark IMHO.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-08 14:11 [#00941362]
Points: 27795 Status: Regular



can't think of any more corrie tracks, only pat n peg
(eastenders) springs to mind

<-- let me introduce you to bill. bill is great, bill is
fab, bill invented music, bill used to manage echo & the
bunnymen and the teardrop explodes


 

offline mimi on 2003-11-08 14:14 [#00941366]
Points: 5721 Status: Regular



jeez i encoded that at 192, i thought that meant GREAT
quality....i apparantly know nothing...whoops.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-11-08 14:16 [#00941368]
Points: 5437 Status: Regular



in a hour i'm gonna get fuckin' ripped and listen to the
whole thing for the first time on the vinyl copy i just
bought...


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-08 14:17 [#00941370]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to earthleakage: #00941362



:: does a quick google ::

Man, that wins the prize for obscure avatars! He looks like
a grim fellow, wouldn't have been out of place in Joy
Division or the Stranglers perhaps. Can't you see him
drinking with Hugh Cornwell?


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-08 14:22 [#00941382]
Points: 27795 Status: Regular



obscure? he's tha man! he's had a number 1 single under the
name of the timeloards, a remix of the theme of doctor who,
then he wrote a book on how to have a number 1 single, then
he won album of the year at the brit awards, then he packed
in music, then he burnt 1 million pounds of his own money,
all the procedings of the album, then he went on a trip to
the north pole with a picture of elvis to place the king at
the top of the world. this man is a great man. this man is
bill.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-08 20:31 [#00941691]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to earthleakage: #00941382



He could have used that money to buy new shoes for orphans.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-08 20:39 [#00941695]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to mimi: #00941366



mimi - it's almost great quality - I encode with Lame using
--alt-preset standard, which creates variable bitrate files.
They can go as high as 320 when the music warrants it, but a
lot of music averages out to 192k or less. It's just that
VBR files have that extra headroom when they need it. makes
a difference to my ears...

Now on the other hand you have people like inverted whale
whose ears are so good he can tell how much garlic was in
the tzaziki sauce you just ate by the gurgles your digestion
makes, and he hates MP3s and CDs - he swears by getting
little tiny men to sit in a radio-shaped box playing child
sized instruments.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-11-08 20:43 [#00941697]
Points: 22557 Status: Lurker



you guys are boring


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-08 21:09 [#00941715]
Points: 27795 Status: Regular | Followup to fleetmouse: #00941695



don't mention flac its beginnig to do my head in. even ogg
is shit nowadays.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-08 21:45 [#00941742]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker



Does anyone know what the negro is saying in hand throw?


 

offline mimi on 2003-11-08 23:41 [#00941782]
Points: 5721 Status: Regular



but anyways, back to chocolate wheelchair, didn't like it a
bit!

i think maybe im not going to like anything he puts out
anymore...do you think vsnares ever gets tired of himself?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-11-08 23:46 [#00941785]
Points: 18368 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



<---vinyl from warp should be HERE ANY FUCKING DAY
WEEEEEEEEEEEE

BEEP
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP

HOH OH OH OH OH NO HERBIE DONT DO IT
!!1

HERB IE ARENT YOU ASHEMED EOR WHAYORSELF !!


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-09 12:56 [#00942431]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to mimi: #00941782



No one else can make 7/4 time groove and slam and be catchy
like on Einstein Rosen Bridge. Listen to it again.

Or how bout near the beginning of Sky Painted on Car where
he blends the sound of a voice and a receding boat horn into
a huge weird doppler effect? That is so cool.

I admit there's tracks that fall flat - Too Young is just
kinda *meh* you know? He did that kinda stuff better on the
Badminton single.


 


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