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Velocet
from San Clemente (United States) on 2003-11-07 22:56 [#00940650]
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Im a longtime lover of IDm (looongtime aphex fan) and ambient among other electronic genre's and have for a long time been wanting to get into the creation of it...if for nothing else to vent some creativity constructively.
Could anybody name some good software out there, prefferably free or cheap to register, that i can use to get started? I used to screw around alot with an old pirated version of cooledit with some success but im sure there is better stuff out there now.
I've been listening to all the tracks recently created by some of the artists on this board that they linked for people to listen to and have found some pretty impressive/enjoyable shit (mesquite bbq chocolate milk for example is fucking awsome, forgot artist name as its not listed on the file).
Also, asside from the occassional links to recently created tracks where else should i go to sample more of the stuff you guys create?
i know theres a chance of getting flamed for being a newbie asshole and asking such dumb questions but any help would be greatly appreciated :)
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-11-07 23:20 [#00940652]
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no reason why you would get flamed...
i know theres a number of people who dislike "fruity loops" but honestly i recommend that program. some of the best stuff ive heard this year came from that program. its simple looking and "toyish" looking at first, but deep down its very excellent and complex.
its good for beginners and its good all around.
its fairly cheap though, though it COULD be cheaper. you could always download it :p
here is a link to some of my music
currently i have two free eps for download, one released on inpuj.net, the other released by myself. check it out if you want, or anyone else for that matter.
but yeah, i suggest fruity loops to start.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-07 23:33 [#00940653]
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I agree - try fruity. You can download a demo and play around and save your experiments as wavs or mp3s - you just can't save them as .flp files that can be reopened and edited. The producer edition also lets you record audio in if your sound card has ASIO drivers.
Once you get tired of the built in instruments and effects, you can use all kinds of VST synths and plugins.
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Velocet
from San Clemente (United States) on 2003-11-07 23:33 [#00940654]
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awsome. thanx disasemble checking your stuff out right now. nearing time to hit the sack so ill download fruity loops tomorrow. What does registration for music software usually run on average?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-11-07 23:35 [#00940655]
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On average, free. :-)
If you don't wanna be YARR a pirate YARR then FL Studio producer edition is something like 150 US. Worth every penny too -
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Velocet
from San Clemente (United States) on 2003-11-07 23:40 [#00940656]
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i have very mixed opinions on piracy. Well, im mostly against it and really don't feel like stealing software/music that people paid to create (even though i've been known to search out cracks and download mass mp3's in the past :P)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-11-07 23:41 [#00940657]
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Noise Tracker!!!! :D
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Velocet
from San Clemente (United States) on 2003-11-08 00:13 [#00940664]
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disasemble did you use fruity loops to make those tracks? im really enjoying them
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-11-08 00:18 [#00940666]
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fruity loops, reaktor, kontakt, ableton live
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-11-08 00:18 [#00940667]
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glad you like em
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Velocet
from San Clemente (United States) on 2003-11-08 00:21 [#00940668]
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reaktor, kontakt, and ableton live being plugins or seperate applications?
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-11-08 00:25 [#00940669]
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applications.
reaktor and kontakt come from the same programmers, "native instruments". quite popular, but i would argue that the programs are more complex, reaktor especially.
ableton live is made by ableton, and is a live looping/sequencing device, primarily meant for live shows, but i like arranging things on it as well. lots of versitility.
therse loads of other programs too, i just use these more so.
fruity loops is the basis for most of the songs though. i like working my basic structure down in FL
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Velocet
from San Clemente (United States) on 2003-11-08 00:30 [#00940670]
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would i be able to make tracks as complex and proffessional as the ones you have linked for download on your site with FL alone? what are you able to do in reaktor and kontakt that you cant with FL and its plugins?
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Velocet
from San Clemente (United States) on 2003-11-08 00:35 [#00940671]
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well.. ill be checkin in on all this stuff myself when i download FL and check the native instruments websites. but sifting through website information, especially pertaining to shit im not too well versed in, can be a pain in the ass.
just wondering what i will be limited to with just FL and what the advantages and abilities of reaktor and kontakt are over FL, in lamens terms :)
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-11-08 00:44 [#00940672]
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you can make just as "professional" or "complex" stuff with FL alone. in fact, a person i know makes more complex and profesional sounding stuff in FL alone, tenfold above my tracks. kid fucking out-funkstorungs funkstorung. just depends on how much you put it.
program never makes the artist. other programs help you gain more insight, but its up to you whether or not you want to use just one. i like branching out, but i know people who just stick with one or two progs
reaktor is a modular synth. you create from scratch. ie you connect gates to the gate input of an envelope, then you create the attack, sustain, delay of it. then you connect that to a sine/square/triangle/random oscillator connected to blah blah blah etc.
you can get really intricate and a bit more "mathematical" with reaktor. but if you can make sounds in FL that you could in reaktor for half the time, i say go with FL. i use reaktor sparingly, i cant stand making shit in it for too long.
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Velocet
from San Clemente (United States) on 2003-11-08 00:53 [#00940673]
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ill definitely be downloading FL and putting some serious time into learning it when i get up tommorow, thanx alot. I REALLY appreciate your help.
Ill let you guys know when i create something worthy enough to share :)
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dxc
from Latvia on 2003-11-08 03:24 [#00940714]
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Once again this topic!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-08 03:30 [#00940719]
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I recommend you start with fruity loops and if you ever want to venture into the hardware realm, get reason first to get a solid understanding of miid/cv and what different equipment does.
As to where to hear stuff, Kill_Switch did have a page of links to all XLT musician's stuff, can anyone remember it?
My own tracks and some of my older stuff.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-11-08 03:35 [#00940722]
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Yeah floops or reason, i love reason it's great but for somebody just starting it's all quite baffling where as floops is very simple to use.
If you want to check out my stuff go here.
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Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-08 04:05 [#00940734]
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www.buzzmachines.com
its free & its good
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-08 04:12 [#00940737]
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And unless you're already familiar with trackers it has a steep learning curve ;)
Buzz is good though... it has been used on proper albums, just because it's freeware doesn't mean it's poor quality. Watch out for the stability with certain buzz machines though and I'd advise agianst using it in a live application :/
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Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-08 04:34 [#00940751]
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ye i was gonna say that.. its not easy at first, and it wont hit u with a nice gui with loadsa knobs and flashing lights
but i didnt want to break the habit of a lifetime and post more than one sentance at a time
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-11-08 05:33 [#00940811]
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reason2.5 and soundforge6
but i know orange dust uses fruity loops search for his stuff, it premium quality
and everybody else it so my stuff www.zebox.com/hummer/music
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