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offline epohs from )C: on 2003-11-10 11:48 [#00943926]
Points: 17620 Status: Lurker



the thing is, we're not the only ones that are going to be
suffering if this process fails.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-11-10 11:56 [#00943940]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker | Followup to epohs: #00943926



then the usa has to make a real effort so that it doesnt
fail


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-11-10 12:19 [#00943975]
Points: 9083 Status: Regular | Followup to nacmat: #00943940



you said it pal :)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2003-11-10 14:24 [#00944110]
Points: 35867 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



Bush doesn't care! He wants oil!

None of the worlds madmen have ever cared about what other
people think of them or their actions!

Like in Burma, where Aung Sang Suu Kyi is under "house
arrest" because the people voted for her! That, obviously,
is a crime...

Same as being communist, black, poor or radical in america.

If Bush hasn't cared before, he won't care now. Neither will
the people who pull the strings (i doubt that fucking ass
has come up with all this on his own).

It isn't "worth" building Iraq back up if you count the
dollars. If all the people in the world would give Bush one
dollar to step down, do you think he would do it?

Someone mentioned MGS2? That's probably not far from the
truth! Full informational control! The web will be
restricted, and this post, that petition, and anything else
"un-american" will be shut down!

One last thing: Arnold is governor... Bush is president...
what idiot will be the next government official in USA? Me?


 

offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-10 16:44 [#00944389]
Points: 7090 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



*signed

"It's a global abrasion
It's conflagration
United Nations
It's a total invasion
...
Destroy your customs
You'll have no say
We'll clothe your women
In the western way"



 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-11-10 19:52 [#00944570]
Points: 3348 Status: Regular



thank you..

not signing this does no good.. if you want USA's Iraq
policy to change, this is one way of going about doign it


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-11-10 20:20 [#00944589]
Points: 12102 Status: Regular



One way, but it;s a shit way.... There;s just over 350
thousand american idiots, maybe a 105th will give their
lives for their pseudo 'freedom'.

why is bush your represntantive?


 

offline xian_ecci from los angeles on 2003-11-10 22:48 [#00944784]
Points: 251 Status: Regular



i haven't been to the board all that much recently, so it's
strangely comforting to return and find much the same inbred
rhetoric backing itself as when i left it.

part of me was sadly expecting the debacle at hand, stopping
short of being satisfied at the administrations' spiteful
actions and susequent failure.

i really don't want to get any further into the same
discussions(?) regarding the issue, except to ask this,
do many of you really believe that the current situation in
the middle east is one that exists as a result of US
actions? of course, world affairs are complex... but the
so-called "backlash" of US capitalist policy over the past
years not-withstanding, does anyone here really draw a line
between America and the complete lawlessness of suicide
bombers and virtually random destruction of infrastructure
and social facilities?

were arab countries on a road to peace that the US
obstructed?
we did inherit problems that europe generated during
colonial rule, and the vast mid-east itself has manifest for
a thousand years.

someone in this thread asked whether, now that 'the US
destroyed a whole country, is the rest of the world expected
to clean it up?'
and while i would never hold my breath for the rest of the
world to do anything until forced, i do realize that we're
all going to have to clean up somehow, and at sometime.



 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-11 00:44 [#00944920]
Points: 6650 Status: Lurker | Followup to xian_ecci: #00944784



Learn some history and NOT the revisionist bullshit your
government feeds you.


 

offline xian_ecci from los angeles on 2003-11-11 10:33 [#00945680]
Points: 251 Status: Regular | Followup to jonesy: #00944920



right, jones.
well i've been reading the xltronic messageboard for quite a
while now, so i'm quite familiar with the matrix of lies
i've been forced to swallow. i feel, really.

my favorite though, is how those reporting from whatever x
location speak as if from the only source of objectivity,
like those responsible for disseminating information and
governing in their circles are free of interests, of
adjendas, of coersion. we actually have access to libraries
here in the united states. and we can read all the
uncensored internet, too!
everyone revises they're own history by what they absorb and
how they translate it. i'm not denying propaganda.

anyway, i thought my message was in the form of a
question..just curious.
i guess the answer's already been spelled out; the greedy
US government prepetuates evil in the name of
self-righteousness, while it's people run amok in a consumer
cloud.



 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-11-12 18:53 [#00948004]
Points: 3348 Status: Regular



.


 

offline AK47 on 2003-11-15 07:33 [#00951088]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker



1bn 'slips through' to Iraq

America doesn't need anyone's help, they can manipulate and
wrangle the UN any which way including theft from the Oil
for Food program that they had put on hold.

Stuff anyone who blows the whistle as they will just be
silenced....






 

offline AK47 on 2003-11-15 07:43 [#00951095]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to pantalaimon: #00944389



boy did you ever miss the point of that song...gawd Jaz
Coleman (half Egpytian)would be rolling his eyes


 

offline AK47 on 2003-11-15 08:05 [#00951117]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker



I can't resist this heartwarming story


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-11-15 08:06 [#00951118]
Points: 11496 Status: Lurker



At the end of the day, it was the majority of the American
voting population that put Bush where he is. Does make you
think.

Yeah he's an idiot, but I think any president would have
done what he did. And watching the news lately, I wouldn't
be at all surprised if the troops moved back in sometime
soon



 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-11-15 08:08 [#00951119]
Points: 11496 Status: Lurker



Btw. I think Rumsfeld would make a good president. He's more
professional in his manner than Bush


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:08 [#00951120]
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so the us shouldnt have gone there, but they shouldnt give
in to the terrorism now (as they would appear to do because
they support sharon less, which is good in itself but not
for the the fact that it would have been provoked by fear of
terrorism in iraq, maybe this is bullshit, i just read it in
my paper). so for all i care bush gets his 87 bil, he's
economically ruining the country anyways and shouldnt be
re-elected for that. on that same note im not going to sign
for having rumsfeld fired, though that's a fun idea, the
whole conservative right wing clique of bush should take a
hike (in the dessert or something that is).

apart from the giving in to terrorism and me apparantly
liking seeing the us's butt kicked (over the backs of those
poor soldiers :( the sollution might be for the us to leave
though and for the rest of the world to clean up. right wing
presidents of the future might not pull such a stupid stunt
that easily anymore and it might do iraq good.


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:11 [#00951123]
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so larry flint really has those porn pictures of that
heroine with to soldiers? that's so cool


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:11 [#00951124]
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so larry flint really has those porn pictures of that
heroine with to soldiers? that's so cool


 

offline AK47 on 2003-11-15 08:17 [#00951128]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker



Bush actually didnt win the election...it was decided by
High Court over vote counting in Florida where many black
people got eliminated by invoking a newly instilled law that
prevented them from voting if they even had a sembalance of
a police record including traffic violations. The said
people, many of which were unfounded and unproven. Gore had
a clear lead up until then.

As far as Bush's war efforts go, I doubt if many presidents
would have been willing to invent that amount of bullshit to
make a case for war and carried through with an unproked,
preemptive strikes like he did. It takes a special kind of
scum to do that, to go that low. Even his father Bush Senior
is not impressed and his decisions have been doctored and
made by the neo conservatives not voted in. The troops are
dying in Iraq as we speak...


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:20 [#00951131]
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black people shouldnt vote anyway


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-15 08:21 [#00951133]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator | Followup to big: #00951131



you should see spike lee's episode he did for ten minutes
older : the trumpet


 

offline AK47 on 2003-11-15 08:22 [#00951134]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to Jedi Chris: #00951119



*Btw. I think Rumsfeld would make a good president. He's
more
professional in his manner than Bush

Holy shit? You just described the 4th Reich


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:25 [#00951140]
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he agrees?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-15 08:26 [#00951143]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



i dont think he agrees with anyone but himself :)


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:29 [#00951146]
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yes i have that too
im the only one that should be allowed to vote ;)


 

offline AK47 on 2003-11-15 08:31 [#00951147]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker



who agrees?


 

offline AK47 on 2003-11-15 08:33 [#00951149]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #00951146



silly cartoon snails should not be allowed to vote either :P


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:33 [#00951150]
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apparantly spike lee thinks black people shouldnt vote, i
cant agree with hím of course


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:36 [#00951155]
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i read on this spongebob fan site (that's where i get all my
information about stuff like this) that gary is smarter than
his boss! so


 

offline AK47 on 2003-11-15 08:45 [#00951157]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker



Cheers for the movie, will check it out -

Greg Palast has this article on the 2000 elections
and also shot a documentary for BBC on the subject.


 

offline AK47 on 2003-11-15 08:46 [#00951158]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #00951155



I love spongebob....


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-11-15 08:49 [#00951162]
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everybody loves spongebob, even bruce willis apparantly, but
i feel i really knów him, you know?


 


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