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Now, lets discuss Autechre - Gantz Graf [WAP256CD]. Details can be found Any messages NOT related to this particular release will be deleted by the Moderators. Keep it clean! Please, report any abuses to the Moderators. |
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I fucking love this release, it's becoming my favorite. |
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the problem with this feature is that it makes a diferent thread for every diferent release of the same ep or album I already started a thread of gantzgraf... but with the dvd well anyway its a great ep. one that cost me a lot to get into |
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gantz graf (the track) still kick me square in the nuts. |
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kicks |
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is that a good thing or a bad thing for you? |
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YAY GOOD YAY ..in this case.. :) |
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That's cool... I guess. *Tries to imagine a harsh, vicious sound kicking self in the nuts* *Shudders violently* Is the CD / DVD worth it? How much does it tend to cost? |
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I got the CD + DVD for about ¤16 if I recall well... |
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one of the best things about ganz graf is that it starts totally mental...becomes a bit more straight forward for dial, then cap.IV simply knocks u off the chair (or bed or floor or other platform of gravity) and by gradually resorting form beutiful melody to chaotic coolness...analysis complete...i *heart* ganz graf |
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For me, the EP goes downhill. Gantz Graf is great, Dial is very good, Cap.IV is just a little irritating... |
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i like cap.iv best, it's a perfect climax at the end of the ep great track, gantz graf is cool too, dial doesn't do much for me |
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i agree, at the first listen i thought cap.iv was simply an extension of dial, being that it really didnt go newhere, tho i think cap.iv is great it reminds me of reniform puls a lil bit at the begining |
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It's ok, it's an interesting idea. But I just can't enjoy it at all, and I can appreciate Draft 7.30 and Confield. |
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To fully appreciate Gantz Graf, you gotta watch the DVD ... simple as that.. |
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I do not agree. the track existed before the video. watching the video is, to me, something else. a GOOD something else. but you certainly do not need to have seen it to 'get' gantz graf. |
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true... I am totally biased about GG as a audio/visual piece as I just think it works so well - each half working with & complimenting the other - I guess don't really see it as the "video" as such... |
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Totally agree with Qrter. The imagery is nice, but I don't need visuals to imput a wicked image in my head when I listen to this and other Autechre tracks. Some are better than Gantz Graf anyway. I like the one with the nekkid girls the most. |
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absolutely. the fluidity of the track is the amazing thing to me, besides all the changes in texture. BUT! the video is incredible too - it does indeed work very well with the music. I remember when I got the dvd in the mail - I didn't have a dvd-player then, so I took it to a friends house and we watched it on his laptop. we were blown away.. :) |
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The DVD doesn't even look like what I picture the track as, and it STILL doesn't affect the way I hear it, even after multiple views. I picture a gigantic machine, kind of like a crane, moving around fluid gears and other machines, but this big one is jerky and insane, parts and limbs are disapearing and reappearing at random on other locations of its body, doing strange things. That's how I ''get'' this song. But yeah, Rutterford did a great job and it gels with the sounds perfectly. But there's more than one way to gel with it. |
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I just got ganz on 12inch and it sounds like a warm-blooded reptile brain making calculations. |
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I love it...(the only autechre ep I've never really fully appreciated must be Peel sessions II)... I wonder where Boot and Brown would place it in the Autechre landscape.. Is it post-Confield or pre-Draft 7.30? Or just a solitary isle in between? The second and third track sounds a bit like autechre revisiting some of their older themes -Well, it does to me anyway... The video IS amazing! |
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I rmember first listening to this track and saying to myself "god damnit,.. autechre are going even MORE unlistenable,.. I can't see myself liking this track at all, now i love it to death,... |
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cap IV is a masterpiece! the hidden melody in the background is superlative |
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gantz graf is like the windowlicker of ae, so good by itsself that theres no need for an album of similar music.... love the song and the video, dial is ok tho i didnt expect ae th have words, it worked well....capIV was great, i love how it started so random and got faster as it became more cohesive.... |
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Co-existence - I'd say it's definitely a pre-Draft EP, rather than a post-Confield one. The one thing that ties the EPs with the albums, I think, is artwork (Garbage/Amber, Anvil/Tri, Envane/Chiastic, EP7/LP5), and the artwork on Gantz and Draft is similar - both use the æ symbol instead of the letters 'ae', both have all the writing 'sideways', and even the same font for the credits. Plus, personally, I think it sounds a lot more like Draft than Confield. |
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thanks to everybody who posted in this thread its been the greates reading in this mb for m in this week really interesting all the thoughts about the simbiosis between track and video |
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the concept to the video was great, but i wish they didnt stay on certain 'shapes' for so long... |
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hhmmm...not sure If I agree Bob...seems to me to be almost a unique piece of art in every frame...I really don't think I've seen that sort of attention to detail before; (Alex can do no wrong in my eyes...a real talent; takes a lot to on par visually with AE, but he really put the time & effort in & came up with something more than the sum of it's parts...)... I'd say it was as visually exciting and innovative as the Audio of GG itself...no mean feat... I guess I'm saying it's a kind of 1+1=3 situation... |
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yeah its one of the best videos ive seen...but it cant compare to my imagination :) |
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yep, I think that's parts of AEs uniqueness...their music has that certain alien quality than forces internal visualisation & gets the mind working... Kinda archi-tek-ual...to coin a phrase...:).. (I must admit I don't really see GG as a video in the classic MTV sense...perhaps video-art is closer...)... |
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Good point... I didn't notice the detail with the æ symbol...you're right! |
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I think Gantz Graf is the kind of track that can't get boring. It doesn't seem to matter how many times I've listened to it, it just gets better. I can't even recall anything that sounds remotely similar to it, by ae or anyone else. It doesn't have much of a melody, and the rhythm is certainly beyond my comprehension, but it's gorgeous. It's just sound and it's always changing. All you can do is listen because you have no time to think or react. It might just be the most perfect abstraction of music ever. |
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gantz graf = hello this is space station awesome and we are blowing up planets for fun (9/10) dial = robot baseball match in the year 6020 (9/10) cap.iv = whoa (10/10) Can anyone work out the words in this ep? In cap.iv I heard "in case you're feeling" ... "please destroy" near the start of the track, and there is definitely something going on in dial. Smooth |
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yay...gantz graf is very good,i admire the video done by Alexander Rutterford. first time i saw it i was like...ok wtf was that,haha! i didn't believe how good the A/V sync was. |
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there is another gantz video? |
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nop...the one and only GG wideo that done by Rutterford. i was refering to that one... :)) |
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the track is a bomb. i remember showing the video to some friend, and when it started, he twitched like scared, shokked and it was funnie! |
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i believe all that story except for the you have a friend |
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great! smoke some shit and then check.. :O "OH MAN, THAT VACCUM CLEANER TRACK.. IT REALLY GOT RIDDIM!!!1" |
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this is probably my most favorite post. this ep is very very very very good. |
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i am listening to dial and i just stumbled upon this topic. surely is a great ep, probably not as good as my pee pee but its still good. |
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like all autechre past lp5 this makes no sense whatsoever to me. sorry! |
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bob |
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what? |
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put your stereo's bass as high as you can then play any track from grantz graf, then place your scrotum against the speakers and realize their genius. |
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i'll try that in the morning then. is that how you got into it? |
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thats the only way i can listen to the music... just kiddin. its actually quite good. i was one of the first people who started to give it a downgrade in the board, sounded like shit compared to aphex twin, but if you give it time it'll start growing on you and you'll realize how intricately delightful gantz graf is. |
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i take the GG vinyl i play CAP.IV very slowly I TURN THE BASS ALL THE WAY UP AND THE TREBLE ALL THE WAY DOWN you should behold the masterpeice!!! |
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