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offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-11-02 08:49 [#00930105]
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have you recieved your shit already?


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 08:50 [#00930107]
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Well I got my large order but it had the Dial P and vibert
stickers missing. With people saying how good Dial P is I
really want that. They've sent it. I don't careabout the
stickers although my girlfriend wanted them. I ordered the
chocolate wheelchair too and that's not arrived. I hope my
rephlexions isn't delayed! :(


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-11-02 08:51 [#00930109]
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damn this if my order arrives in 5 days or so and dial p is
missing theres no chance in the world ill be able to get
hold of another copy


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-02 09:01 [#00930123]
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This triggered an argument with my parents. It can be boiled
down to:

Me- Generally oppossed to strikes, glad the unions were
depowered back in the 80s.

Them- All corporations are evil if they could they wouldn't
give us holiday/sick pay and children would still be working
down the mines etc.

They don't seem to grasp that if unions ran the country they
would be just as bad as the corporations are now.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 09:18 [#00930133]
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there there
*pats back*


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 09:19 [#00930135]
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In theory they wouldn't but in reality they will. Thqat's
the sad thing./


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 09:21 [#00930137]
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i ordered spokes the day before it was released. I better
get my free cd else i'll go to london and piss blood into
the mouths of the warp cockwhores


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 09:23 [#00930140]
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BAH! I amde my order on 2nd October!


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 09:25 [#00930143]
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yikes. And they didnt send you the free CD? Bunch of
assholes. As if they dont make enough feckin money


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-02 09:30 [#00930152]
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Just off of me they make a shit load! :P

It was a simple mistake though. I e-mailed and they
apologised for it. I won't hold it against them as it's the
first time an order's gone wrong for me. They're sending it
though.


 

offline diablo on 2003-11-03 10:15 [#00931776]
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this country is fucked! get back to work you lazy gits.


 

offline KADO from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 10:26 [#00931785]
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Im waiting for my new passport to arrive. Ive got 10 days
till i go on holiday, hope they start delivering mail soon.



 

offline telica from london/york on 2003-11-03 10:31 [#00931796]
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the muppets have gone back to work. about fucking time too.
i want my cds and books! i bet they'll have got lost what
with all the squillions of letters and parcels backed up.
grrr.

i wish i lived in greendale. postman pat wouldn't do this
to us.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-11-03 10:33 [#00931801]
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oh snap!

well, the mail is delivered here ok, I get bills and junk
mail with regularity.

i think I'll call it the post though

post post post post


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-11-03 10:37 [#00931806]
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damn

its still not here.. so i mailed warp

i hope they know whots going on.. theyve been very nice to
me before..


 

offline diablo on 2003-11-03 10:42 [#00931811]
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so the strikes are over? I haven't seen any news in days


 

offline Tommib from Canterbury (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 10:46 [#00931816]
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I want the chocolate wheelchair album!! waaaaaaaa!!


 

offline sploog from United States on 2003-11-03 13:07 [#00932166]
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i ordered from warpmart just before the strike, i haven't
got my package. arghhhh...


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-11-03 13:25 [#00932207]
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I forgot all about it !

My pay slip arrived ok on friday though

effected areas -

London

Central London: EC1-4, WC1, WC2

West London: all W postcodes

North London: N1-3, N5-8, N10-13, N16, N19, N21

North West London: NW1- 6, NW8-11

South West London: SW1-2, SW4-6, SW8-20

South East London: SE1-5, SE7-10, SE13-16, SE19-28

East London: E1, E3-4, E6, E10-14, E16-17

Special Delivery items are not being accepted in any of the
above London postcodes for the time being, but will resume
from Tuesday.

Post boxes are being unsealed in all of the above London
postcodes. This process may take a couple of days to
complete.

Middlesex

Greenford: HA, UB

Post boxes are being unsealed and Special Delivery items
will be accepted from Tuesday.

Essex

Ilford: IG1-6, IG8, IG11

Romford: RM1-2, RM4, RM7, RM9, RM12, RM13, RM15

Southend: SS3-5, SS9, SS13-17

Colchester: CO1-4
Post boxes are being unsealed in all the above IG and RM
postcodes.

Special Delivery items were suspended in IG, SS, CO, CM or
RM postcodes but will resume on Tuesday.

Kent

Dartford: DA1-5
Post boxes were also being sealed in DA 1-5, but are now
being unblocked.

Maidstone: ME
Special Delivery items were suspended in DA or ME postcodes
but will resume on Tuesday.

Buckinghamshire

Milton Keynes: MK1-7, MK9, MK10, MK15, MK17
Special Delivery items were suspended in MK postcodes but
will resume on Tuesday.

Oxfordshire

Oxford: OX
Special Delivery items were suspended in OX postcodes but
will resume on Tuesday.

Berkshire

Slough: SL1-0
Special Delivery items were suspended in SL postcodes but
will resume on Tuesday .

Hampshire

Portsmouth: P0
Special Delivery items were suspended in P0 postcodes but
will resume on Tuesday.

Wiltshire

Swindon: SN
Special Delivery items were suspended in SN postcodes but
will resume on Tuesday.

Lanarkshire

Staff at Scotland's largest mail distribution centre at
Wishaw, Lanark


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-11-03 13:27 [#00932211]
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Lanarkshire

Staff at Scotland's largest mail distribution centre at
Wishaw, Lanarkshire briefly walked out on Wednesday but
returned to work later. Royal Mail said customers should
continue to post letters as normal.

Staffordshire

About 80 staff walked out of a Stoke-on-Trent mail delivery
depot on Friday. Royal Mail said the ST6 post code area was
worst hit.

Cambridgeshire

Staff at the Cambridge sorting office walked out on Friday
afternoon.
Mail centres unaffected by the action include:

Gatwick Mail Centre, Crawley

Guildford Mail Centre, Woodbridge Meadows, Guildford

Hemel Hempstead Mail Centre, Park lane, Hemel Hempstead

Peterborough Mail Centre, Papyrus Road, Peterborough

Reading Mail Centre, 80 Caversham Road, Reading

Royal Mail Canterbury, Military Road, Canterbury

Tonbridge Mail Centre, 20 Vale Rise, Tonbridge

Southampton Mail Centre, Mitchell Way, Southampton
International Airport, Southampton.



 

offline tango from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 13:32 [#00932217]
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i got warp orders . play.com orders ebay gear and i sold
like 20 or more cd's and am waiting on payment - and my c
card got nicked a week ago and i'm waiting on a new one -
they couldnt have timed it better - feckers


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 13:47 [#00932229]
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Well at least my eBay packages have arrived. But having read
the pOgO post I see that the two places I get post are in
the affected list! w00t! FUCKINg POST!


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-11-03 13:49 [#00932233]
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im waiting too on my sleeze


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2003-11-03 14:00 [#00932243]
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i could go for a chocklitt weel cherr about now


 

offline tango from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-03 14:02 [#00932244]
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pOgO is the oracle


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2003-11-03 19:40 [#00932917]
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YaY!


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 01:00 [#00933216]
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sweet, i just got dial p, spokes, sheath, and a whole bunch
of stickers and postcards and all sorts of yummies. Thankyou
warp.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-04 01:45 [#00933242]
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Ceri

How can you be oppossed to unions? The only people oppossed
to unions are the BNP. People have the right to organise
themselves democratically and withdraw their labour.
Otherwise you have fascism.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-04 04:19 [#00933415]
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Ha ha, I don't believe the unions are in (all) the workers
interest as much as people make out. They're often
responsible for violence on workers who for financial
reasons can't afford to take a days strike (or agree to take
semi-voluntary redundancy). The very real threat of getting
murdered (or at least a severe kicking) by your co-workers
because you are not in favour of a strike sounds a lot
nearer to fascism than democracy to me... Thats without even
beginning to consider the mob ties in America and the
diffculty unions used to cause with getting work for
travellers and "outsiders". I know they're closed now, but
you would *never* of got a job on Barry docks in its heyday
unless you were a son of a union member. Tighter than the
masons the dockers unions were...

"The only people oppossed
to unions are the BNP."


Unless I'm getting my history muddled up, the conservatives
were never great fans of them either...

I'm not opposed to the idea of better conditions for workers
and more leave, shorter hourse etc. but I'd rather see it
done through legislation brought about by a democratically
voted in government than by Stalinists like Scargill.

In their favour, I do like the sculpture outside the general
union headquarters in London.

Perhaps I'm merely envious as there is no union equivalent
for IT professionals (BCS doesn't count IMO). Can you begin
to image how much we'd have the country over a barrel if the
IT staff of the country walked out for an across the board
10% pay rise?


 

offline purlieu from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 04:41 [#00933430]
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Ooooh, I got my Dance Hits '94 CD. :D Nostalgia is a
wonderous/awful thing.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 05:00 [#00933447]
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There's a package waiting for me at home :D

I don't know if it's my Dial P or Chocolate Wheelchair album
:D Oh man! I can't wait to get home :D w00t!


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-04 05:04 [#00933450]
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Who has been threatened with murder for crossing a picket
line? A Royal Mail representative wheeled that one out the
other day on C4 news and when Jon Snow asked for evidence he
couldn't produce any.

If there were no unions your pay would be significantly less
(OK, when you were working you sap on the taxpayer you!).
Even if the IT secotr is not unionised a strong unionised
workforce across the country has a general effect on wage
levels.

As for legislation, unions force governments to enact such
legislation. Employers don't give workers pay rises out of
the goodness of their cold, hard capitalist hearts. They do
so becuase workers demand them.

As for the dockers. all you had to do was join the union.
The practice you speak of ensured a strong union which was
able to fight for the interests for ALL of its members.
Nothing wrong with that.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-04 05:56 [#00933486]
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There hasn't been serious violence in the recent bouts of
strike. However, there's a famous (UK) legal case from the
miners strikes where three strikers threw a paving slab off
an overpass onto a car that a non-striking coworker was
in(the outcome was that the murderers were not guilty as the
counsel for the defense proved that these comparatively
uneducated men could not of possibly worked out the physics
needed to time it perfectly- sickening really as the physics
involved in walking are far more complex... it's just one of
those things the brain instincitvely "knows").


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-04 06:05 [#00933488]
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That was an isolated case. You can't take one case and
generalise. Besides, governments do far worse. What about
how the police and security services were used during the
miner's strike? I interviewed a woman who's female friend
took a beating from the police for just being on a picket
line.


 

offline Peloton from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 06:11 [#00933491]
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You state unions are "often responsible for violence on
workers who for financial reasons can't afford to take a
days strike", then state one notorious case from the early
80's.

There's nothing like sweeping generalisations, eh?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-04 06:13 [#00933492]
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And none of them can really afford to strike.


 

offline Peloton from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-04 06:18 [#00933497]
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Yeah, the Met police were bussed into many mining villages
and ran a campaign of violenece and intimidation. They even
produced little stickers that they'd post up around town
glorifying the battle hardness of the Met boys - not unlike
certain hooligan football 'firms'.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-04 09:05 [#00933672]
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No, that's an example of someone being killed, in
this country alone... There are far more examples of
generalised violence. My father -who, incidentally, is now
pro union and was not pleased to discover I had advised the
other students on my course (I'm student rep.) to boycott a
strike- and a collegue both very narrowly escaped a kicking
from a union gang when he worked as a furniture mover.
Fights often kick off at picket lines and I'm not talking
about agent provocateurs- the french truckers port blocking
last year resulted in at least two fights when frustrated
people (who, as most victims of strikes are, had bugger all
to do with the cause of the strike) tried to cross the line.
Sure, in most cases trying to cross a picket line you'll
just get jeers and maybe tripped up or pushed, but even that
is hardly pleasant- it seems to detract somewhat from the
idea of choice on the part of the worker.

Jonesy, with regard to "joining the dockers union" unless
you were a docker's son they wouldn't let you join the union
in the first place! There were real snags for people who
lived in Barry who were not, "in the family" and hence
couldn't get work. Parents of people I've worked with
suffered this.

Come on Ecnadniarb and Promo, where are you guys? :P


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-11-04 10:36 [#00933805]
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i forrgive them


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-11-04 11:24 [#00933861]
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update



 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-04 11:35 [#00933876]
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i sent a letter to redhill, surrey yesterday, it arrived
today. i don't seem to be experienceing any problems at all,
i also got my vid from mvc today


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-11-04 11:42 [#00933889]
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So who in the postal service are you shaggin' then
;o)


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-04 11:53 [#00933910]
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postman pat...ricia


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-11-04 11:54 [#00933913]
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arf arf 8op


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-05 01:32 [#00935002]
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I don't see that a few rare examples of picket line violence
are enough to justify your anti-union position. There are
fights in pubs every weekend but you wouldn't say pubs
should be banned. Or football violence is not enough to
justify banning football matches.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2003-11-05 02:13 [#00935046]
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same problems for me :-/


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-05 02:18 [#00935048]
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I crossed a picket line last year, they didn't turn nasty
until I was about 50 yards away and when I turned round and
started towards them they all ran round the corner


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-11-05 02:40 [#00935060]
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Count yourself lucky you weren't murdered.


 

offline purlieu from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-05 03:59 [#00935132]
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No packages in the post this morning. :| Eleven to come,
still... bah.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-05 06:54 [#00935320]
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Well, I'm off to a union meeting in 5 minutes. Should be
interesting to see if the "big bosses" of the NUS try to get
us to advise students on our courses to strike over
something this year. It'll be fun trying to talk people out
of it... ah the games, the gamessssssssssss >;)


 


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