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offline pantalaimon from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-27 10:39 [#00920602]
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I always found it amusing that God created the world in 7
days or whatever its meant to be, then he created adam and
eve... now unless i'm mustaken Dinosaurs ruled the earth for
thousands of years before humans.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2003-10-27 11:04 [#00920631]
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"DUDE DUHHH, GOD DAYS LAST LONGAR THAN HUMEN DAYS!!!
DURRRRR"


 

offline nacmat on 2003-10-27 11:15 [#00920644]
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world war 3 will occur if the USA continue fucking this
planet


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-10-27 11:43 [#00920677]
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there are so many holes in evolution it is amazing


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2003-10-27 11:52 [#00920692]
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Do you mean holes as in inconsistencies? Such as? are you
saying there are fewer holes in organized religion?? please
explain.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-10-27 12:00 [#00920702]
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I guess it really depends on what religion and this
discussion should probably have it's own thread.

But i am wondering what you mean by Organized religion? A
certain Denomination? Or a religion like hindu or buddist?

I've heard things about circular reasoning. The process of
dating bones by the layer of dirt it is in and dating that
layer by the bones that are in it. If i can remember this
had to do with the geologic column.

Although i try to stay away from these discussions because
people are so opinionated that it just turns into an
argument resulting in a 600+ post thread of people bashing
each other.



 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2003-10-27 14:28 [#00920925]
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There already is a WWIII!!!


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offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2003-10-27 16:51 [#00921076]
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Feel free to look at reasons.org for a different perspective
on Genesis. While I am not sure if I believe this or not it
is well worth looking at.

The idea is that the Hebrew word for Genesis can be
literally translated to mean a) 24 hrs., b) the daylight
hours, or c) any long but definite period of time. Also,
the words evening and morning can be translated to mean
"beginning of the day" and "ending of the day." Another
thing to note is that Hebrew days were bracketed from
evening to evening and sometimes morning to morning, but not
"evening was and morning was." It is therefore plausable to
reason that these days are actually ages of the earth's
development. God uses the seven days as analagous for the
work week, however these may be more of a symbolic framework
rather than a literal 1/1 time period.


 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2003-10-27 16:54 [#00921078]
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no because the us is already in almost every country on
earth... i wish that they weren't

ps...do people even talk about music anymore on the board


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2003-10-27 17:04 [#00921081]
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A couple of other things to think about ...

On the sixth day, God planted a garden, making the "trees
grow up from the ground," created Adam, brought all of the
animals before Adam for him to name them, and then created
Eve.

Adam, upon seeing Eve used the expression ha'paam, which is
roughly the same as our modern 'at last.' Doesn't sound
like the events of one 24 hr. period to me.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2003-10-27 20:57 [#00921259]
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but think about what you're saying. Are you trying to tell
me that carbon dating is just a hoax? that the dinosaurs
didnt exist up to 90 million years before human beings
appeared? are you saying that human genome project and all
these things are all just made up? This is the point that I
am trying to make. If you (meaning anyone) need to look at
the development of earth metaphorically by saying that the
different stages are the different days in "God's plan",
then fine, just keep it to yourselves in my opinion. The
problem is that no religious devout can EVER keep it to
themselves, they're constantly trying to press their shit
onto other people. And of course, that's where all the
problems arise...


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-10-27 21:02 [#00921261]
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Over a long enough time frame the chances of survival are
alwasy reduced to zero.

...and the inevitability of some events really comes into
it's own.


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-10-27 21:12 [#00921264]
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zephyr twin .. unless you're basing your insights off TIME
magazine and New Scientist articles etc. you will find that
though genetics has a lot of pragmatic use, the theory is
far from conclusive!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-27 21:13 [#00921265]
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dude... I cant beleive you arnt realizing what you are
saying...

yes, there is more proof of evolution... but that doesnt
disprove the existance of god

you are stating your opinion man... thats really all it
is...

and yet you are saying this things like absolute facts.
there is still much to be learned...

you BELIEVE that theres no god. you cant prove it

see my point?

it goes both ways... just as I cant convince you youre
wrong, we cant convince religious people they are wrong



 

offline sine wave from Ireland on 2003-10-27 23:48 [#00921298]
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i only know that when the apocalypse does come, i will be
listening to godspeed you! black emperor's "albanian" as
loud as possible


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2003-10-28 11:21 [#00922004]
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Under the day-age view of creation (the one I described
earlier), dinosaurs would have existed before man was
created and on the sixth 'day.' Also, as I said this is a
literal, not metaphorical translation of the Genesis account
because an epoch could be a literal translation of the
Hebrew for day.

In regards to the comment about keeping it to ourselves...
I find it interesting considering what all gets discussed on
this message board. I also find it interesting considering
that my post was a response to someone else's, who brought
up the topic of the judeo-christian view of creation.
Zephyr Twin, I seem to remember you making some posts about
porn stars in other threads on here. What if I don't wish
to read about that? What if that offends me? How about
those who have chosen to use pornstars as their avatars, or
make threads about orgies they had the opportunity to
participate in? Or threads where members post their
favorite picture of a girl wearing a thong or panties? I
tolerate that, don't I?

I find it interesting that often those who are the loudest
advocates for tolerance and free speech are only so when the
issue at hand suits them and become incredibly intolerant
when being subjected to a view that they disagree with.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2003-10-28 14:24 [#00922259]
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"I find it interesting that often those who are the loudest
advocates for tolerance and free speech are only so when the
issue at hand suits them and become incredibly intolerant
when being subjected to a view that they disagree with."

I agree with you here, but then again I also was not writing
an essay on the advocation of pornography, I simply made a
reference to one girl that I thought was attractive. I
believe in free speech, but I also believe that it is
unethical to push your religious beliefs on others. And on
that note, I DO keep my beliefs to myself, accept when these
beliefs lend themselves do discussion, as in this thread.
Everyone is entitled to believe what they want, but in my
opinion some people are just naive/stupid.


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2003-10-28 14:25 [#00922260]
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except*


 

offline Zephyr Twin from ΔΔΔ on 2003-10-28 14:29 [#00922265]
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Yes, I see your point. But by proving evolution, it DOES
disprove the existance of God.. Think about it, God
supposedly created man in his image, and that human beings
have looked the same since their creation. But proving that
we are the decendents of animals, apes, goes against
everything that the bible is based on. I'm not going to say
anything else on this subject because I feel that it won't
do any good, won't change any minds, and won't solve any
problems. I'm sorry that I ever became involved with this
discussion actually, and if anything, i now have the view
that religion is even more of a waste of time.


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2003-10-28 14:33 [#00922272]
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when: I DON'T KNOW
where: ON THIS BOARD

dont forget the martians!!! :P


 

offline Peloton from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-28 14:40 [#00922278]
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We've come along way from apes. Some not so long as
others... as it appears.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-10-28 15:33 [#00922319]
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War is good. If you want to go kill then go kill other
people that want to kill in some desert/jungle/town full of
people.

There is nothing we can do about it... well actually there
is DON'T VOTE FOR COKED UP IDIOTS LIKE BUSH.

I got the answer to infection ...


 

offline glasse from Harrisburg (United States) on 2003-10-28 15:41 [#00922329]
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Anyway, about WWIII. What are your thoughts on the New
World Order? Are Neocons and other groups really pulling
strings behind the scenes to form a one world government, or
is it all conspiracy theorist paranoia? Is the war on
terrorism really what we are told that it is, or is it an
attempt to neutralize potential monkeywrenches in a future
globalist utopia? I haven't answered these questions
completely for myself, but I think better understanding the
real motives of the players would help determine the future
of current situations.


 


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