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offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-17 09:17 [#00905640]
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I've been thinking about eyes and ears lately. I used to
sorta visualize time and music as one dimensionalish because
of it's seemingly strict linear nature. But now I think it's
just that the nature of our ears makes us percieve it that
way (because obvioiusly when you strike a cymbol, sound
travels outward from it in all directions ie 3d)

To explain what I mean, consider the way eyes and ears
comparatively function (as far as my limited understanding
at least). Eyes have many cones and rods set up in a
2d network to collect information in the form of light. Ears
on the other hand only have one single vibrating bone as far
as I know. So try thinking what it would be like if it was
opposite. Suppose we only had one "vibrating bone" or
"cones" or whatever to sense light for each eye. Or suppose
that we had many vibrating bones for each ear. Should
the experience of listening and seeing be fundamentally
different, and reversed in terms of sensory power. After all
light and sound are both just waves as far as I know even
though ones a much higher frequency. It would be very weird
to experience "3 dimensional hearing" with some sort of new
organ that sensed with many individual "vibrating bones"
working together as eyes do now. Plus with 2 ears, perhaps
there'd be something similar to stereoscopic hearing which
would be super weird 3-d or something.
Snick Cnah sniuff.
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offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-10-17 09:20 [#00905645]
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i've got a vibrating bone.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-17 09:28 [#00905655]
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pruff 9 p
ppp zuf zuf
gish sogh moo


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-10-17 09:35 [#00905667]
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what's funny is that scientists still don't know why music
is so appealing to the human brain - they have many theories
though, but they're undecided as to which is correct.

one theory is that music is the call of a clan or family,
and that apes would beat their chests / prehistoric humans
would play primitive instruments before war to scare their
opponents, or to show their strength as a group.

it's also considered that music is pleasurable since it was
quite likely - along with dancing - part of prehistoric
mating rituals and celebratory events.


 

offline nanotech from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-10-17 10:11 [#00905704]
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i say it's the math behind music that's so appealing.
listening to a sequence that follows the rules of certian
modes rather than other modes. or hearing a certian pattern
of booming deep bass sounds. Music is to relative to ever
come to an accurate conclusion. If i were to submit a child
to live in a box where all he hear was it's own sound, and
japanese noise...what would he say about the "structured"
music we listen to?

but then again, i personally like NON tonal sounds better.

it's just a sence really, all of the mathematical
computations that the mind goes through to evaulate your
physical posistion in your environment based on the echoes
emminating off of it. What about your other sences? cant
you feel the tingle of a vibration? isn't that hearing? and
can you not, "hear" or feel someone's "vibe?"

The ambience of life, the best "mode" in the universe.


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-10-17 10:15 [#00905711]
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<---- my eye


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-17 12:17 [#00905832]
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correction:
"I've been thinking about eyes and ears lately."

was supposed to be:

"I've been thinking about peni and poop lately.'

sorry abou t the confusino rf


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-17 12:55 [#00905896]
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Just having many rods and cones set up in a 2d network
doesn't give you 3d vision. Your brain can infer the third
dimension after you have used your eyes for a while, but
unless you have two eyes at different positions that can
focus at the same place, the third 'depth' dimension isn't
there (try playing hacky sack or something with one eye)

Sound for us is two dimensional, since you can interpret
position (either left or right of you) by the delay that it
takes the sound to get from one ear to the other; that's the
only way your brain knows what direction sound is coming
from.

I think dolphins actually have a focusing 'lens' of fluid
roughly in this shape () in their forehead so perhaps their
echo location can give a more detailed 2d 'picture' in sonic
waves. I've also heard the lens helps to focus the chirps
and noises they use for echo location, and it can actually
stun small fish.


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-10-17 13:05 [#00905907]
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I've also heard the lens helps to focus the chirps
and noises they use for echo location, and it can actually
stun small fish.


That's true

They also use their echo as stimulation during sex and as an
x-ray in some cases


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-17 13:08 [#00905910]
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www.dolphinsex.org


 

offline nacmat on 2003-10-17 13:11 [#00905917]
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lately I ve been thinking about my tongue.... I hurt it all
the time


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-17 13:17 [#00905924]
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muff burn?


 


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