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very sinusoidal |
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music IS math C3=44000 C2=22000 C4=88000 etc |
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anyone who knows anything about anything (esp. in music and most particularly in this genre) would say YAY. a strong yay. |
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I vote yea as well. |
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i dont like that song |
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i'm not sure what math is, but i'd probably say that parts of math are involved in parts of music..(?) |
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is quite interesting... though it seems a bit scary to me :D |
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that site was fucking great ! |
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How do you account for improvisation without the aid of digital instrumentation ? Music = Math: nah. |
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music is everything |
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no. maybe music was math some centuries ago (like, XVIth century or something... where it was all codified and all, Descartes' first written work was about music but seen in a scientific/mathematical point of view), but now not anymore! maybe some music is math if you want, if you make logarithmic music or something like that... for mostly some electronic music and some classical music... but most music isn't, in my opinion. total improvisation can be music and it has nothing mathematical! (unless you see things from a very far-fetched point of view, like "everything is math"... - and if you think like that you're freaking me out!!! °_°) you can use math for music in some cases. but it is in no way equal to music. math is cold and soulless. (at least to me - if you think math is beautiful and emotional, you're freaking me out!!! °_°) music can be emotional and warm. math is laws and applications of laws, is an exact science and leaves no place to creativity from what i know (does it?). music couldn't exist without creativity. |
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i think you stand a much better chance at making complicated music if youre good at maths. Its all numbers. Not to say there arent exceptions to the rule, i just think the two go hand in hand |
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...and two and two always makes up five. |
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the algorithms are in the computer program, not the music... you can make music without software... most music is made that way! |
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You ought to expand your ideas of what math really is, IMHO. It's more about discovering and/or creating various types of patterns (spatial, temporal, numeric or totally abstract) than just applying laws. There's tremendous amounts of room for creativity in mathematics. |
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If there was any straight up logic to music/art then computers could easily write great music and create great art... But it's not the case atall. Maths isn't real - Numbers are only ways our Right Brain quantifies things... Schools make a big mistake teaching Newtonian physics to everyone and leaving it there - Gives the majority of intelligent people the impression that everything is quantifiable like a computer game. Artistic appreciation and creation comes from the Left hemisphere of the brain - It's a completely different world from mathematics and logic - It's completely unquantifiable. The maths teaching in schools also leaves you with the impression that everything can be broken down into equations and rules - Totally untrue - In reality there are vast oceans of unquantifiable and illogical truths - Maths only covers tiny islands: geometry, calculus, etc... There is far more to reality than right-sided logic - It's just that modern day living is totally focused on it... I also don't believe original thoughts/ideas could ever be broken down into mathematical logic - Reality being broken down into numbers and measurements is a complete illusion created by the (over)rational mind - Numbers don't exist. There is no such thing as "2 things" - There is only "A thing" and "A thing" - There is no connection is any reality except the right-sided brain's imagination. |
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I've met a lot of people whos minds simply cannot deal with the concept that reality on a quantum scale is nothing like a bunch of snooker balls floating in space - It's what most intelligent people have been conditioned to think like - But read up on modern physics and mathematical philosophy and you'll realise those ideas are centuries old and completely wrong. |
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word what do you peoples think, that because you CAN put numbers on musical phenomenon to explain them then they must be math ?! wtf, i think many people think more like sound=math... because that is a lot more true... |
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measure, structure, form. a very complex algorithm could describe a song |
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The thing is there's no real logic to what makes a great tune. Even on something as simple and quantifiable as a TB303 - Which has a very mathematically limited sequencer and a very finite number of possible sequences. Yet even with something that simple you cannot write software that can work out a good/great sequence from a crap one. If it could, it could just sit there all day making random lines and rateing them until it hit upon that 1 in a million best acid line ever created. It's a problem of modern day life - We can only relate our quantified, computerised logic to a thin slither of reality - The middle dimensions (between quantum and astro physics) - Yet most of what makes us who we are and where & what we are follows no set logic atall. The way we make and write music is not "music", it is just a medium of artistic expression... Just as art isn't really about the paint or brush you use, "art" is about direct communication from one soul/ego to another. So "music" is nothing to do with the notes, measures and frequencies of pitches, they are merely a way we can package/convey these abstract ideas and concepts aurally - The music/art element is completely abstract and therefore devoid of any reasoning or logic. |
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Think about this - When you're watching a DVD you're only really watching numbers turned into colours on pixels - But the exact numbers and pixels used are irrelevant - It's merely a medium - The meaning we interpret is what we're actually seeing and how we rate a film. |
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Math is everything, so therefore music is math and math is music. |
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math sucks |
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Arghhh!! Haha, Maths isn't real - Numbers don't exist! Honestly! Think about it. They're just a concept you can apply to certain aspects of reality - But they are few and far between... I'm gonna have to decondition half the worlds' population now! |
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