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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-10-07 01:52 [#00892405]
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anyone believe in it?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-10-07 01:56 [#00892415]
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Thinking positively of the power!
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-10-07 01:56 [#00892416]
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im trying to start to believe in it.......
sheesh.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-10-07 01:58 [#00892417]
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It can help depending on the situation! I guess it all depends
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-10-07 02:00 [#00892426]
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you are quite right
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-10-07 03:38 [#00892494]
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positive thinking is the key to success
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-10-07 03:56 [#00892509]
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If you think positive about everything, then everything is great, so life is great, and great lives are enjoyable
I think having an attitude to "have a go" at everything is important too
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-07 04:02 [#00892511]
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I know some elite athletes visualize themselves succeeding, as a part of their training. It's a sort of a meditation, where you see yourself winning/scoring whatever.
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nacmat
on 2003-10-07 04:15 [#00892519]
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my girl believes in it... I dont really
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-10-07 04:22 [#00892522]
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i prefer the term 'purposeful self-fulfilling prophesies'
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-10-07 04:40 [#00892524]
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yes i believe in it, at least i know that thinking negatively dont bring you a shit, but when you dont think about anything, or think about it in a good way, things seem to flow better (thats for my life)
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-10-07 09:01 [#00892792]
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Positive thinking... is great! (and important)...
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-10-07 09:10 [#00892800]
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i hate people walking around with big grins on their faces all day long for no obvious reasons. makes me want to smack them!
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uzim
on 2003-10-07 09:13 [#00892809]
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yes... of course, well i believe you feel much better if you're thinking positive...
yet i'm not thinking positive. i don't want to lie to myself in that way... i don't want to find myself feeling bad and pretending i'm good...
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uzim
on 2003-10-07 09:15 [#00892814]
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(...pretending to myself i'm feeling good.)
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-10-07 09:18 [#00892819]
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i feel positive - im happy i love everyone , i havent got a problem from years , im beautiful , strong and wise , i have most beautiful girl on the world , great future is waiting for me , my friends just love me
oh, and everyone here love's me , im the best person onthis bosrd to talk with , im loved on all web and i must go to toilet.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-10-07 09:21 [#00892825]
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NO !
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-10-07 09:21 [#00892827]
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yes
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k_maty
on 2003-10-07 09:29 [#00892845]
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self brainwashing
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-10-07 09:29 [#00892848]
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yes
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-10-07 11:26 [#00893114]
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rather to say what you dont want you should say what you want. makes sense i guess
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-10-07 11:42 [#00893130]
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over-confidence is so ugly
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-10-07 12:16 [#00893183]
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Every thought you have has a direct physiological effect on your body.
I'm all into positive thinking these days!
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-10-07 12:20 [#00893190]
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The whole possitive-thinking gimic always seemed sorta like an escape for the weak.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-10-07 12:22 [#00893193]
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positive thinking changes how you perrceive a situation but that's it.
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-10-07 12:24 [#00893198]
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completely positive thinking is just like completely negative thinking. its just extremes.
i think people who focus on either one completely are fooling themselves. not a day goes by without me feeling positive and negative. most of the time its just somewhere inbetween.
WELP, thats my take on it anyhow.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-10-07 12:31 [#00893208]
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I agree. I prefer to take things the way they are and that's that. I have no need to be thinking constantly possitive thoughts about my life and what happens in it.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-10-07 12:37 [#00893218]
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yes, how you perceive/interpret the world, how you (accordingly) interact with that world, how people (accordingly) perceive/interpret you and we're back to the start again.
so in essence, i think there's more to it than only perception (or interpretation). its the interaction part that makes the difference.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2003-10-07 12:38 [#00893221]
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as a response to anus' post
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-10-07 14:08 [#00893347]
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Well positive thinking can cure people of cancer and negative thinking can cause almost any congestive illness: heart disease, cancer, etc...
The Placebo effect is obviously a good example of positive thinking - And there have been cases at the other end of the spectrum where someone's been mis-diagnosed with a serious illness and actually ended up dying from it! It's actually more common than you'd think.
The human body's actually incredibly well designed to repair itself, even destroy giant tumours - But it's just something that modern westernized man doesn't pay much attention to on the whole - Rulers in ancient Egypt used to live to 80+ quite frequently - And that's without anti-biotics or anything.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-10-07 14:12 [#00893352]
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In fact, some people have even said that over 90% of all illness may be originally caused by negative thinking/repressed emotion - It certainly has a lot to do with cancer and heart problems... Also, laughter stimulates the immune system while stress and depression drastically weaken it - Which leaves you open to all illnesses and cancers.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 14:23 [#00893373]
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The same importance should be attached to positive thinking as to healthy eating and exercise.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-10-07 14:46 [#00893392]
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isnt it all about perception?
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Crazy Act
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2003-10-07 14:57 [#00893419]
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Escape for the weak or a weak escape but positive thinking can also be an advantage. In the way of managing situations or even to avoid a mindflood created by a small problem for example.
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Crazy Act
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2003-10-07 15:00 [#00893422]
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Perception is the point, but efficacity can depend of it.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-10-07 15:11 [#00893440]
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yes.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-10-07 16:25 [#00893496]
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Religious/spiritual people (obviously not meaning your stereotypical fundamentalists or evalgelist types!) tend to live much longer than atheists.
It's been proven in just about every culture on earth... Much lower risks of heart problems or cancers, and much more healthy immune system... Shows how closely the mind and body are related.
Even to the extent of: if you imagine yourself workin out at a gym you will get around 50% of the benefits as if you were actually there! No shit! I promise you!
You see generally around 50% growth in muscle fibres (compaired with doing it for real) and also improved circulation and aerobic efficency!
And if you are working out or trainning in sports, your perception of what you're doing and how it will affect you actually have a profound impact on your physical development.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-10-07 16:26 [#00893497]
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depends what one means by +ve thinking .. if its the type C, repressing your anger etc. and putting on a happy face, i don't think that's really that healthy in the long term. but if its a positive attitude towards attaining goals etc. i don't see how that can be a bad thing? (and yeah, that cancer therapy stuff is pretty mean things)
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-10-07 16:30 [#00893501]
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i think the tricky part though is buying into it. the placebo effect works for the supersitious, but puts off those more alienated ... ideally there would be a middle ground that combines both approaches - ie. you know its a placebo and don't share the superstitious ignorance, but at the same time you still buy into it/play along genuinely
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 17:27 [#00893549]
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Multiplicative thinking is much more powerful than positive thinking but you need multiple brains, or enhanced neurons.
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loopychoon
on 2003-10-07 17:43 [#00893558]
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I think there's a fine line between positivity and naivety. Sometimes it pays not to get your hopes up too much, which is perhaps more realistic than negative, instead of being overly positive.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-10-08 00:01 [#00893913]
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what is a person but the consequences of their beliefs? if you know that you choose how you react, and take responsibility for this, then you can determine why you react as you do, then change how you react, according to whether your reaction is helpful to yourself and others. it's useless to try to cover up negative thoughts with positive ones; but if you identify the beliefs that produce the negative thoughts, then you can change the belief, and then initiate the appropriate positive thought.
of course, the power of positive thinking is not important to anyone until they discover how important it is...
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-10-08 00:09 [#00893919]
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id like to think of myself as a positive realist.
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-10-08 00:13 [#00893921]
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I'm naturally a negative person :(
It's very hard for me to have a positive attitude. I try, though!
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-10-08 00:16 [#00893923]
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no shit its hard to have a good attitude.... i still dont really have a good one.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-10-08 00:24 [#00893929]
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i've had to discipline myself to have a good attitude. sometimes i'd just sit in my bedroom for a while and meditate. my experience in martial arts (taekwondo) was actually a spiritual benefit for me as well. i usually insist on being nothing short of rational most of the time so as to maintain a positive attitude. it's working for me so far, but it's been said that those who are too rational don't live as long as those who freely express their emotions. still, i've insisted that giving up is like hara kiri.
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bjg
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2003-10-08 13:21 [#00894763]
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hmm, I'd think exercise, diet AND positive thinking, together is more powerful. I mean you can't be fully fulfilled with just positive thinking. Being healthy and happy atleast to me encompasses all those things, and is more powerful. certain beliefs etc can change the way you think and feel, it's pretty easy to do. but making it last is the hard part (depends of course how badly you want it). nothing is a problem, it's just a challenge. That's pretty powerful thinking already and gets me through nearly everything. i tend to think everytime i'm feeling negative or down to be just a challenge, and then start looking for ways to get back up again - otherwise you lose control. it could be just as simple as changing the way i'm looking at something or going to the gym and sweating it out. of course this is just my point of view, it's probably different for everyone else. but i just thought i'd add something.
Anyway, you can think positively all you like. Action is when anything changes for real.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-10-08 13:35 [#00894802]
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Oh yeah! Exercise is definetly the key to thinking positively!
And self-hypnosis works wonders too - I've just started that myself - Results are shockingly noticeable!
Martial arts is prolly one of the best things you can do - It's really a form of standing meditation - When you're concentrateing on your body movements for like a solid hour or two you're actually completey clearing your mind.
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bjg
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2003-10-08 13:49 [#00894834]
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Yep, you need both definetely. Positive thinking may help cure disease etc, but exercise and diet can definetely help with positive thinking - and both can do wonders. If you sit at your computer all day eating and slouched over (speaking from experience here as i used to do), you'll find it pretty hard to think positive. Well you can think positve, but it's definetely nothing on what you can feel and think if you work on all aspects. It's all interrelated. Emotions don't just "exist", they are caused and are apart of your physical makeup.
and damn, i should have kept up with taekwondo!
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