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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 10:36 [#00884079]
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I've noticed one not very nice thing here. ( its good that its the only one so far :) ) there are several people making music at home ( or whatever ) . here they have possibility to listen yo opinion's of others about this music.
BUT here we have a group of friends- im not gonna call names - this is apparently group of 15 people. they probably know eachother not only from the board.
The problem is , that posts of otherpeople ( not from this group )about their music are checked very rarely - friends are checking friends , and that's it
im not sure that you all understand me good ... in other words - when someone new is coming here and he's giving thread about his music - the thread is going down fast fast....
without response. i had 2 threads "almost" without response , but i dont want you to think that i'm complainin'
its just that this board gives the oportunity to hear something about Your music....but this is only said "on paper" - in fact posts of unknown people are without response
this is not good because if this wil not change - soon we gonna have loads of bedrooms dj's in Club Rotation style
i dont know , maybe i have bad day but i feel inside that i wanted to say this from long long time ago
Am i right or not ?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-09-30 10:38 [#00884085]
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bump em some times.. that helps..
and its only logically that people who spend more time here get more listens.. if your music is well known ppl are more likely to spend their bandwidth on it
i think i get your point... its a bit poorly worded though
i dont know what to do about it either..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-09-30 10:41 [#00884088]
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well, there are some people who know each other for a long time (from the previous site) and i guess they're interested in each others music so they talk about it a lot...
yeah, i guess if you'd like more attention you need to be more persistant and bump your music up all the time :)
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 10:42 [#00884091]
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yes its very poorly worded coz my not very good english...and..im not sure how to say this , you know i have this in head
for example - im here everyday ( almost allways ) - can you remember my threads about my music ? i bumped this threads several times , but when you are bumpin your thread for 15 time its not very good for others threads...
i dont know what to do either...its just what i've noticed maybe a bit of discussion could be helpful
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-30 10:43 [#00884093]
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I disagree, I think it's fair the way it is- people who come here more are more likely to know people and hence know their music. What you're forgetting is that people will know that person's style and may enjoy their tracks and therefore willingly download them.
Why should I listen to the music of someone (this is not directed at you!) who has just signed up to the board to spam their tracks? The most irritating is seeing people with <100 points bumping a topic about their music. Why ought I waste time and bandwidth DLing their stuff when they've never commented on anyone else's stuff?
Fair enough, if I see someone whose opinion I respect saying that a track is good, I'll check it out. When I was new here I must have commented on at least twenty tracks before asking others to comment on mine. That way the people who commented on mine had already gotten something in return.
I also think that the really good music makers here tend to be the most downloaded... it's not a popularity contest, there are some people I don't talk to on the board at all, but I still like their music and hence DL it.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 10:43 [#00884096]
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its good that you understand me in way i wanted to be understood
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-09-30 10:43 [#00884098]
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dude, id listen to your shite if i could, but i cant d/l here :0(
peace
i love poland
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-30 10:46 [#00884103]
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you have the possibility to post links to your music on this board - however, it isn't the purpose of the board.
so everyone is free to download and listen to what they want to, if they want to.
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-09-30 10:46 [#00884105]
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I think you should bump them MAKE PEOPLE LISTEN.
I've listened to a few of peoples music here, not a lot cause I dont have speakers on my computer at work but if I come across one I have a listen. I even have a folder with all the music ive got here :D
BUMP!
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-09-30 10:48 [#00884107]
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am I in that group? if so, what exactly are you talking about?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-30 10:48 [#00884108]
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"yeah, i guess if you'd like more attention you need to be more persistant and bump your music up all the time :) "
I don't know about that... I get put off by people bumping their own music thread every 30 minutes- if it's the next day or at night rather than day, fair enough, but when people are bumping it very frequently I tend to ignore it on principle. Much the same as I'd never buy something, even at a great price if I had recieved it as spam. Posting links to a new track 2/3 times a day counts as well in my book (I mean putting several songs up and making a topic for each one)
Please don't take this the wrong way hyakusen, but your initial repeated bumping of your tracks put me off DLing them for a few weeks. When I finally did DL them, I enjoyed them and will probably now DL most of the new ones.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 10:48 [#00884109]
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thanks :)
Ceri : youre forgetting that some people just want to listen opinions - without interfering in community like this . it snormal - i dontr think that waiting for >100points before posting music is good idea - with this we will have community of point-catchers.
to be honest - i was once in communioty where points were most important.
you know what happened ? hole board was only about new ways of geting points.
i think that the points are no matter here.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-09-30 10:51 [#00884114]
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then post em on www.mp3.com.au and benefit from the chart system
your attitude is a bit selfish, ceri's right, when you keep moaning about ppl not downloading your stuff they are not likely to do it anytime soon
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-30 10:52 [#00884116]
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well, I believe Ceri's point is more that you can see the amount of points as a global indicator of how much a person is involved with the xltronic community (shiver!).
it mostly just works better if you get to know people a bit better and to let them get to know you, before posting your music.
it's not a rule or anything, but that's just how people work.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 10:52 [#00884117]
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im not going to take this wrong - but this is exactly what i was yalking !!!!
you get the point , see ? i ( i didnt wanted to talk about myself but ity happend) gave post about my music and there was no response - so i bumped the post - and because of bumpin i puted you off from it for weeks.
this is not working properly where's the point ? bumpin" ? no responses ?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-30 10:53 [#00884118]
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the fact remains: people are free to chose whether to listen to something or not. nothing you can do about that.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 10:55 [#00884123]
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oh JAroen - i was affraid of this before posting this =- you wil start to think that im talkong about ME in camouflage
im not talking about me - in fact my last post is old now , but i niticed posts of others coming down with a speed of light - this is what is interesting ( and a little annoying to be honest )
not me
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-09-30 10:57 [#00884126]
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the more you hang around, the more people will check out your stuff, that's just how it works.
in a perfect world everyone would listen to everbody's music they posted. but that's just not the case here.. just be persistent.
this isnt a post your tracks to be reviewed board, so one shouldn't expect that kind of environment.
if someone hangs around on the board and posts in alot of topics and shares their opinions on various things, i will more likely check out their tracks because i consider them an aquaintance at that point...
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 10:58 [#00884127]
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yes you're true , but avoiding music of ppl that you dont know ....
im not sure that avoiding is a good word for this
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-09-30 11:02 [#00884133]
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your just doing this thread to become a more deffinate part of the community arnt you ?
i see you posting many fine "listen to my track" threads
and now that this thread has exploded w/the entensity of a volcano, i expect your "listen to my music" threads to be even more successful than you could ever of imagined
Whats your opinion on the new star wars movie, episode III, out may 2005 ?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 11:02 [#00884134]
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hm i can get you rpoint but can you get my ?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-09-30 11:06 [#00884138]
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yeah, i agree, but at least one can get attention that way :)
anyway, i usually listen to music by users here, only when i read a nice comment by someone who liked it
(sometimes i do it randomly)
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 11:09 [#00884142]
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are you joking ???????? if this is joke 0 its not funny im not gonna gice any threads if thid one will be understood as my way to be more popular here for fuck sake
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-09-30 11:12 [#00884146]
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dude we understand you 100%
life isnt fair, there are some well known people around here and their music is kool, and there are some lesser known people around here and their music is kooler
id be upset also if i made tunes (as does maybe 50% of this board) and no one listened to them
-IF you want you could send me a cd-r of your shite, and ill tell ya what i think
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-09-30 11:14 [#00884147]
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not much people care for my music either...
i always think 'when its really good itll come with time'
i just make music for myself basically, not because other ppl have to hear it, theres dozens and dozens of other amateur musicians out there...
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 11:15 [#00884148]
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and this finally happened - your last words should be on my post about music - not here
its not good
i would love to send you something - but if this will be because only of this thread - no
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-09-30 11:17 [#00884150]
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then stop moaning! someone wants to listen to your music - thats what you wanted right - and you decline when they ask for it??
thats a bit odd... i remember a thread a while ago where you posted your music and noone responded
so i said 'hell yeah ill listen if it makes you happy'
i liked the track and wanted to post my comments, but you said i shoulndt have done it to please you....
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-30 11:18 [#00884151]
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i try to listen to as much stuff as i have time for. i admit i give preference to people who's choons i have liked in the past but mostly i try to listen and give feedback to as many as possible because that's what i would want for my choons.
i'd advise making the topic title obvious so that people can tell it's a new track. that helps me pick em out of the rest.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 11:19 [#00884152]
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i dont get it - you really think that i wanted to smuggle my music here ?
i also make music for myself - but with this board i have an opportunity to share it to others
just because im not complainin' coz my posts were without response - i will not disappear from here coz of this ,
its a shame that this opportunity needs to be used only after posting in other threads
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-30 11:20 [#00884154]
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I sometimes deal with requests to listen to tracks the same way I do with "mp3.com fan mail" (read: spam requests to listen to their tracks from strangers). I ask the person to DL and comment on one of mine first then I'll listen to one of theirs in return.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-09-30 11:21 [#00884157]
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I check music out more than I comment on it. Sometimes I find tracks so bad there is no point in saying anything, when someone else already said they liked it. If I like a track, I say so.
I agree that it's annoying when new people spam tracks, luckily there isn't that much of it here.
(none of my own music is available online, but the idea is very tempting)
-P
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 11:21 [#00884158]
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My friend - i see i pissed you off with this thread i didnt wanted to do it
im sorry and im not moaning
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-09-30 11:22 [#00884160]
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no, i think you want to tell us that a) the board moves too fast b) its a bit unfair that only the ppl that visit the board more often get more downloads
im just sharing my views of making music here. And recycle only wanted to help you get more responses to your music!
i dont get the problem here...
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-30 11:22 [#00884161]
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I don't listen to anyone's music anymore, it's all pants.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-09-30 11:25 [#00884164]
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no i am not pissed off, not at all.
its just that ive seen you sad because not much people wanted to hear your tracks, and im only trying to help you
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 11:25 [#00884167]
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im not sure that we have a PROBLEM with this - like it is said here earlier - noone can do nothing
now you get the point with point b) this is what i wanted to tell ya
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-09-30 11:26 [#00884169]
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i honestly want to hear your music
i miss being able to d/l peoples music here, stupid restriced sites
there is some really talanted people here
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-30 11:26 [#00884171]
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i agree hyakusen, there is a pretty bad elitist thing going on here, let's make our own group of superfriends
we can be called "Team Bread "
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 11:27 [#00884172]
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yes it is sad in a part , coz i spend a hell lot of a time to upload the shit on web
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 11:28 [#00884178]
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well its not so extreme as you said , but a group of friends is here definetly
it doesnt border me until they are speaking to mee too
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 11:29 [#00884181]
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then i will send you e-mail soon about this
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-30 11:30 [#00884184]
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I think you just need to be patient, your stuff is pretty good and with time more and more people will discover that. In six months time you'll probably get 10-20 responses to each new track.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-09-30 11:30 [#00884185]
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i already emailed you.
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Sleep
from Lawrence, KS (United States) on 2003-09-30 11:31 [#00884187]
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I am extremely new, I'll listen to anyones music if I can find the time. Autumn is here...
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-09-30 11:32 [#00884191]
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im just curious as to who the 'cool group' is now
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-09-30 11:38 [#00884198]
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recycle mimi nlogax Jarworski Phresch epohs rockenjohnny viktor aquagak l2mnoc evolume Ceri JC disasemble JAroen xian_ecci Zeus hyakusen Junktion ecnadniarb DJ Xammax radiowerkshop titsworth Sleep leonid_olusegun warpphex horsefactory pomme de terre mr wiqwar tibbar bjg nobsmuggler qrter tolstoyed rarndaraki gnocelot Paco DeadEight earthleakage uzim Jedi Chris wayout Eddy Wally
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-09-30 11:38 [#00884201]
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i definatly dont belong to it
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-30 11:42 [#00884205]
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i also dont think that im assgned to coolgroup
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-09-30 11:43 [#00884206]
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where did you copy/paste that from :)
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-09-30 11:44 [#00884208]
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thats bollox
i want a proper answer
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