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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-09-23 19:11 [#00875683]
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who still remembers the matrix?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-23 19:18 [#00875697]
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excuse me?
a film that evokes large discussions on the internet?
TONS of movies have and will elicit those reactions. it is inherent to the medium (internet, I mean).
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-23 19:20 [#00875700]
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because it is sold partly on being an action flick and partly on the DEEEEEP philosophical meaning.
they are attempting to cover action in a slick philosophical sauce and quite badly, I might add - ofcourse I will react to that.
leave it out, if I'm not supposed to react to it.
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cx
from Norway on 2003-09-23 19:23 [#00875702]
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i liked it. and yes heh, i agree completely with the philosophy of the movie. it REALLY is alot deeper than everyone thinks.
now, as movie(storywise, and just fun-wise) it's not that good of a movie, they could have written it better.
but the conclusion is just too damn exciting so i forgive them(the wachowskis).
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cx
from Norway on 2003-09-23 19:24 [#00875704]
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HOLY SHIT. it's out novemeber 5th, that's WAY earlier than i expected.
damn.. i thought like.. next summer or some shit.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-09-23 20:43 [#00875759]
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neither of these movies is "deep". not to sound like i'm on a higher plane of thought than everyone who likes these movies....well, thats what i'm going to sound like but oh well.
the matrix is essentially a stew of basic philosophical thought and science fiction cliche that has existed for decades. its what computer science majors come up with while stoned after going to philosophy 100. "whoa" indeed.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-09-23 21:23 [#00875793]
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I loved Matrix 2. It was better then Xmen 2 for sure in my books.
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Asche XL
on 2003-09-23 21:27 [#00875799]
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X-men's poooor. Xmen 1 sucked, xmen 2 was kinda cool. Nightcrawler and colusssus were dope. Wolverine isn't badass enough, the movie is too kiddie-ish etc etc. I hope they make gambit amazing in the 3rd or I'm gonna piss on the movie screen.
Matrix trillogy bends over xmen trillogy and rips it a new one.
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-09-26 09:10 [#00879354]
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another trailler for you h8rs
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-26 09:39 [#00879415]
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I love the scene where Laurence Fishburne is making his big speach underground saying "we must fight". And then they all start having a massive rave like hippies - no chance. Total fucking rubbish. At that point I really was thinking this is just so shit! Lol.
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nacmat
on 2003-09-26 10:14 [#00879452]
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matrix reloaded was a stupid movie imo
it was difficult to make a bad movie with all the things they had on their hands after the first matrix... but still they managed to make a crappy film... idiots
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-09-26 10:47 [#00879496]
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i thought it was good.
and, i think this new trailler for revolutions makes it look even better.
although, i'm pretty sure i'm the only person on this board who liked the second film.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-26 11:21 [#00879534]
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So anyway, all you haters should have nothing bad to say when the 3rd one comes out because at that point, if you still go to see it and feel cheated, you should have known better.
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Asche XL
on 2003-09-26 11:25 [#00879539]
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Ha good point!
epohs - I love the trilogy, that trailer looks AMAZING. Ah, one more month.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-09-26 11:30 [#00879544]
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i left after an hour or so, heartless, boring movie
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-09-26 11:35 [#00879548]
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yeah, as i've said b4, i think reloaded introduced vital characters and filled in quite a few very important plot features. but, it didn't really raise any cliffhanger questions (aside from how smith got out, and how neo stopped the sentinals in the 'real world'), or provide answers to the things they left open with the first film, this caused it to not really be the most captivating of stand-alone films. which is prolly why the w. bros wanted to release both reloaded and revolutions at the same time.
i think revolutions will answer the questions, and make sense of all the characters that were introduced in reloaded. and after revolutions, when we look back on reloaded most of the parts that seemed vague and out of place will make sense.
at least, that's my optimistic outlook on it.
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nacmat
on 2003-09-26 11:37 [#00879550]
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I am stupid... cos I will go to see the last one...
hope never ends
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-26 11:40 [#00879554]
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well, just don't come on here complaining about Keanu's acting or lack of a "deep" enough plot then :P
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-09-26 11:59 [#00879572]
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neo is a pawn.
keanu's bad acting fits the character perfectly.
much as mark hamill's bad acting fit luke skywalker so well in the 1st two star wars'
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-09-26 12:18 [#00879585]
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i cant believe someone with an adrian brody avatar is talking about passing fads.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-26 12:21 [#00879589]
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preaching to the choir, man.
the funny thing is people complaining about his acting in reloaded, as if his acting was any different in the first episode, or any movie he's ever done for that matter.
that's like complaining that Patrik Stewart is too bald.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-26 12:22 [#00879590]
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lol
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-09-26 12:24 [#00879593]
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no! i can't rrememberr The Matrix Reloaded. o wait yeah that guy in the black who... oh no that is Batman.
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2003-09-26 12:36 [#00879604]
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great ideas: horrible execution. the first half an hour is the most boring gonna puke peice of garbage ever comitted to film since "jingle all the way"
then it picks up pretty good, but they still ruined it, ruined the whole damn thing.... you can force yourself to half enjoy it...but you shouldn't have to force yourself to like a movie
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2003-09-26 12:37 [#00879607]
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and about philosophy, any good film should try to incorprate some...
teminator 2 is full of philosophy but's it's much much more subtle. the matrix takes shit right of the pages of hume and descarte
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-26 14:36 [#00879712]
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just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean other people had to force themselves to like it.
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-26 14:46 [#00879730]
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i would have to sit there funnelling fire ants into my urethra to not enjoy that movie.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-26 15:00 [#00879743]
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Terminator 2 vs Matrix 2. Terminator 2 no contest. Sorry T2 will always be a classic and Matrix 2 will just be one of those movies that time forgot. Come to think of it I was never particularly blown away by Matrix 1.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-26 15:47 [#00879759]
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I loved it, even though it was pretty poor from a critical perspective.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-09-26 15:48 [#00879763]
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i think the reason i hated matrix 2 was because it had no atmosphere. the first one had a sorta glassy/metalic/plastic atmosphere (if that makes any sense). and dispite what others say, i dont think that the style in which the movie was made has been duplicated; matrix 1 remains unique.
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Asche XL
on 2003-09-26 16:01 [#00879787]
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T2 bends M2 over and rips it a new one. I just got finished watching T2, funny you should bring it up. It was on TV
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-26 16:15 [#00879806]
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yeh, I still like T2 better. but shit. it's gonna be difficult to top that one.
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-26 16:16 [#00879808]
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that's because alot of the movie takes place in the gritty dark real world. that was kind of the idea.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-26 16:21 [#00879814]
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yeah, the "real world"
i heard that in the 3rd movie, neo has to live with 6 strangers in a house where they all fuck each other and cry a lot.
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-26 17:19 [#00879926]
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that would be a damn sweet ending. i'd sit there and be content if they ended it that way.
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