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offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2003-09-23 03:15 [#00874424]
Points: 638 Status: Regular



so many people bitch about fruityloops I would like to hear
valid reasons why it is inferior. and I would like to take
the time to discuss this logically. because I honostly
don't think anyone can give me a honost to God good reason.


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-09-23 03:25 [#00874433]
Points: 13411 Status: Lurker



Here, Here!

Such a shame people don't take it seriously.
Sure it has a silly name and a childish interface, but yeah.
Great Sequencer! :)


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2003-09-23 03:28 [#00874435]
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yeah, it's the name and the look. but honostly it has a
hell of alot more features than reason hands down. read the
facts.

reason = no vst or dx plug ins OR instruments. fuck that.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2003-09-23 03:29 [#00874436]
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not to mention other features.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-09-23 03:29 [#00874437]
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im sure it has it strenghts and weakneses, but above all it
looks kind of silly :)


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-09-23 03:31 [#00874438]
Points: 13411 Status: Lurker | Followup to john is fast: #00874435



reason = no vst or dx plug ins OR instruments. fuck
that.


amen.
you feel trapped in the program. just writing 'songs that
sound like they were made with reason' I can spot them with
my ear.



 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-09-23 03:36 [#00874442]
Points: 13411 Status: Lurker | Followup to princo: #00874438



but hell... thats just my opinion.
its all about samples in my book+effects in my book! ;D


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2003-09-23 03:38 [#00874444]
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reason can be useful. I know a kid that makes idm stuff with
it that sounds good. but I didn't like it all. just
personal.


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-09-23 03:40 [#00874445]
Points: 13411 Status: Lurker



Fruityloops - Reason
Apples - Bananas

etc, etc, etc.


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-09-23 03:45 [#00874449]
Points: 3000 Status: Regular



big problem for fruityloops (and i only use FL) is the
real-time playback sound quality and the pitch changer in
the integrated sampler + the "playlist" as a sequencer,
other than that i think it's very powerfull

but i hate it, when i render a track, to come back to fruity
and reajust all parameters so that it sounds fine elsewhere

thing is, it's a very creative program, very easy to lay a
track down with a few samples and vst's


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-09-23 03:49 [#00874452]
Points: 7824 Status: Lurker



most of the "fruityloops is crap" speak comes from leetists
that feel like picking on people that have only started
making music, or are anoyed that people can make some real
quality stuff in floops,
also, because the program is user firendly, they think that
people who are stupid must use it,
it's a music making program, that's it, nothing more nothing
less,

jeskola buzz is still better though ;)


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2003-09-23 04:01 [#00874455]
Points: 638 Status: Regular



honostly people think the sound quality is bad but thats
because they aren't using it right. I used to think it was
bad but then as I progressed I would check things I made in
other programs to things I made in fruityloops and they were
identical whereas before I could hear a difference. it's
how you use it.



 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2003-09-23 04:02 [#00874457]
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jeskola buzz is great but to me it's so hard to use.

there is nothing I can't do with floops and cool edit.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2003-09-23 04:03 [#00874458]
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although, being that you can use any jeskola gear inside of
fruityloops why not use fruityloops instead of jeskola?


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-09-23 04:14 [#00874473]
Points: 7824 Status: Lurker



jeskola is simple once you know about 4 big things


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2003-09-23 04:15 [#00874475]
Points: 638 Status: Regular



I'm told jega uses buzz almost exclusively, no joke.


 

offline Clic on 2003-09-23 05:11 [#00874505]
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Flea uses floops and his stuff is awesome.

I've never used it myself though, so I don't know.


 

offline gnocelot from Greifswald (Germany) on 2003-09-23 05:12 [#00874506]
Points: 288 Status: Lurker | Followup to john is fast: #00874458



Because Buzz gear is written for Buzz and a lot of it
doesn't work properly in floops, or not at all (plus some
devs have put safeguards in their machines so they won't
work in floops - there's been some bad blood over the
adapter, I won't go into the details).

As for myself - I haven't worked with floops enough to
really judge its quality, but coming from Buzz I just
couldn't stand the UI. If I decided to have another look at
it (not all that likely, considering the price - I don't
like warezing things that I'm actually going to use), I'd
probably use it as a VSTi only.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-09-23 05:13 [#00874507]
Points: 24589 Status: Lurker | Followup to princo: #00874433



*hear hear :P


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-09-23 06:24 [#00874562]
Points: 7824 Status: Lurker | Followup to john is fast: #00874475



wow, that's really interesting


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-09-23 06:26 [#00874565]
Points: 3386 Status: Regular



I've never enjoyed fruity loops, but now my mc_303 is messed
up, I might give it another go. God I need to get some
hardware.


 

offline john is fast from sacramento (United States) on 2003-09-23 07:36 [#00874640]
Points: 638 Status: Regular



ew... mc303. no offense but can anything original come out
of such a limited box?


 


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