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AK47
on 2003-09-21 09:28 [#00871929]
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This organisation is a collective of israelis, palestineans and international folk that are campaigning to stop a wall being completed to separate the israleis from the palestineans. You can help by signing the petition to stop this wall from going ahead.
an open letter from stop the wall.org
SIGN THE PETITION AGAINST the APARTHEID WALL THAT ISRAEL IS CONSTRUCTING IN the OCCUPIED TERRITORIES
Dear Friends,
The building of the Apartheid Wall in the Occupied Territories is now at a critical stage. The completed sections of the wall have already caused considerable suffering to the Palestinian population. Homes have been demolished, thousands of olive trees uprooted, acres upon acres of land have been expropriated, roads have been destroyed--all to make way for this monster. If Israel is allowed to continue building it, much greater hardships and unduesuffering await the Palestinian population. Now, when the Palestinians are engaging in nonviolent protests against this unjust wall (which will bring no security to Israel), we-Palestinians,
Israelis, and Internationals of the Mas'ha Peace Camp-ask you to help stop construction, NOW.
Add your voices to the Petition against construction of the Wall.
Read and sign the petition on: http://www.stopthewall.org.il
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PigeonSt
from Detroit on 2003-09-21 09:51 [#00871957]
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online petitions don't work
example a: the HAB petition that goes around every now and then
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AK47
on 2003-09-21 09:53 [#00871960]
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the wall at Qalqiliya
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2003-09-21 09:54 [#00871963]
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i agree. no one pays any attention to online petitions, despite their good intentions
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-21 09:54 [#00871964]
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Where is the petition I can sign to stop Palestinians from strapping dynamite to their infants and lobbing them at Israelis?
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AK47
on 2003-09-21 10:06 [#00871976]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #00871964
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US/Israeli propoganda... have you heard about the pregant Palestine women stopped at checkpoints and losing their babies on the side of the road. Thats apartheid.
Their organisation has been created mutally by both Israelis and Palestineans. This is not about tit for tat or racism this is about peace.
Online petitions and the like do work as long people wish to involved, it lets the policitians know about world wide public opinion, so they have work harder to lie to you :D Check out the people from all over the world who signed it. Its the media that love to pull the wool over your eyes, Fleetmouse have you heard of Rachel Corrie, do a search... Bush owes her family an applogy for being crushed by an Israeli tank who ran over her body 3 times whilst trying to save a Palestinenean house from being bulldozed. Incidently the Iraq war started in the same week.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-21 10:14 [#00871986]
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required reading
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AK47
on 2003-09-21 10:26 [#00871996]
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So only a fraction of them do, extremists like Hamas and Islamic Jihad who dont represent the mainstream Palestinean hopes and dreams of living in peace. I think you stopped spouting state funded propoganda if Sharon had his way all Palestineans will be dead as he intentionally proven ages ago by masterminding the massacres of in the Palestinenean refugee camps in Sabra and Shatila. Recently the deputy prime minister of Israel Ehud Olmert offered to murder Arafat
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AK47
on 2003-09-21 10:30 [#00872002]
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Map of Israels Weapons of Mass Destruction
Need I really say more to the only country in the Middle East whose weapons programs are funded by the US
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-21 10:38 [#00872008]
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Only a fraction? Not mainstram? Have you already mentally censored the sources of those images and insignias?
- Palestinian National Authority's website - Palestinian National Authority’s Ministry of Industry
- Palestinian Liberation Organization - Yasser Arafat’s uniform - the official Palestinian Authority’s education system schoolbooks
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nacmat
on 2003-09-21 10:38 [#00872009]
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even though if it doesnt work... thanks for opening our eyes a little
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nacmat
on 2003-09-21 10:47 [#00872019]
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I signed
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big
from lsg on 2003-09-21 12:43 [#00872146]
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i'm not gonna sign: the situation is to far out of controll, it's a useless fight: if it has come down to building an actuall fucking wall, the end has begun, or something, i get sick of this
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-09-21 17:22 [#00872522]
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I ain't gonna sign shit to do with this. What have any of them losers ever done for me? Nothing...I don't see them signing no partitions to make me a millionaire. Let them fight their own battles.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-21 17:25 [#00872531]
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i signed it. the israelis and palestinians are both guilty but they also both have innocents that suffer. the UN needs to invest more time, effort, and money into this situation.
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-09-21 17:44 [#00872580]
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I'm to tired to go into battle mode but I can say that I signed the list. Palestinians have been brutally opressed since the 60's (!!!) and to act surprised when they start to take desparate actions against the occupation country after countless failed attempts in the UN to make Israel follow international law is straight out insane.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-09-21 17:53 [#00872591]
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And a couple of nerds signing their names over the internet is suddenly going to resolve 4 decades of trouble.
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2003-09-21 17:57 [#00872602]
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gaaaaaaah its a waste of energy
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nacmat
on 2003-09-22 03:43 [#00873038]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker | Followup to ecnadniarb: #00872591
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too much fear and shadows around you
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AK47
on 2003-09-23 11:34 [#00874906]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #00872008
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Still propoganda, why by steadily driving the Palestineans off their "ancestoral" land since end of the First World War, its systemic colonisation and that is ok with you. Wouldnt you want your land back or at least compensation. After the land has been taken by force and Israel is in violation of many UN resolutions not unlike its counterpart the US who vetoed most of them. Take a look at the map and you will find chemical etc weapons. There is something wrong with this picture.
Licensed to KILL
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AK47
on 2003-09-23 11:47 [#00874920]
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Does the world owe you a living? Why should anyone do anything for you. Some people are just indifferent to the plight of others, just think if people were indifferent to Nelson Mandela he would have rotted in jail and Apartheid would still be around or the Berlin Wall coming down.
What are the odds lets weigh them up:
Palestineans Stones, Sucide Bombers
Versus
Israel Tanks, Bulldozers, WMD's, Helicopters, Planes, only one of the most powerful arms caches in the world...
Can you afford to be indifferent when its clear that these are unfair odds along with the mass media misreporting every aspect of it. I found signatures from the Irish Protest Movement on there and I would not call them nerds, and the people I knew personally that protest for Palestine every Saturday morning rain, hail shine, signed it.
Thanks to Nacmat, you rule :)
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AK47
on 2003-09-23 12:50 [#00874993]
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Try this little quiz on Israel
Also thanks to titsworth - I agree this bloodshed cant go on
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2003-09-23 12:56 [#00874997]
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The quiz doesn't appear to be working
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-09-23 12:57 [#00875000]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to AK47: #00871996
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only a LARGE fraction.... the majority of palestinians spuport suicide bombers
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-09-23 12:59 [#00875004]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to AK47: #00874920
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"the mass media misreporting every aspect of it."
yeah, CNN and tons of other outlets call palestinian terrorists "activists"...... thats about the understatement of hte year
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AK47
on 2003-09-23 13:07 [#00875013]
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And what about Israels miltary intervention? That must be ok, as you havent mentioned that? Bulldozing people's houses, the wall in question is separting a village from its land, and that is okay with most Israelis, is it not? Should the Palestineans be more hosptiable to the thieves stealing their land?
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-09-23 13:15 [#00875031]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to AK47: #00875013
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i never said that...... and no i dont know how most israelis feel about it
maybe everyone should be more hostitable to everyone
btw you might want to find out the definition of "colonisation"
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AK47
on 2003-09-23 13:18 [#00875036]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to xlr: #00874997
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Sorry I cant seem to find it on another page, it might have been removed.
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AK47
on 2003-09-23 13:23 [#00875040]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMinal: #00875031
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I am well aware of it, as maybe the word I was looking for was "occupation"
i have been drinking on the job tonight :), a couple of chemical heniken weapons with a band New Pacific Music Ensemble (Cook Island music fused with jazz)
Not as cool as a multimedia but a short history for you
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-23 14:31 [#00875134]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to AK47: #00874920
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public indifference is the only reason mumia has yet to be given a fair trial and why george w. bush got away with the massive slaughter of hundreds of thousands of iraqis in the name of the oil industry and family revenge
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