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offline AK47 on 2003-09-21 09:28 [#00871929]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker



This organisation is a collective of israelis, palestineans
and international folk that are campaigning to stop a wall
being completed to separate the israleis from the
palestineans. You can help by signing the petition to
stop this wall from going ahead.

an open letter from stop the wall.org

SIGN THE PETITION AGAINST the APARTHEID WALL THAT ISRAEL IS
CONSTRUCTING IN the OCCUPIED TERRITORIES

Dear Friends,

The building of the Apartheid Wall in the Occupied
Territories is now at a critical stage. The completed
sections of the wall have already caused considerable
suffering to the Palestinian population. Homes have been
demolished, thousands of olive trees uprooted, acres upon
acres of land have been expropriated, roads have been
destroyed--all to make way for this monster. If Israel is
allowed to continue building it, much greater hardships and
unduesuffering await the Palestinian population. Now, when
the Palestinians are engaging in nonviolent protests against
this unjust wall (which will bring no security to Israel),
we-Palestinians,
Israelis, and Internationals of the Mas'ha Peace Camp-ask
you to help stop construction, NOW.

Add your voices to the Petition against construction of the
Wall.
Read and sign the petition on:
http://www.stopthewall.org.il



 

offline PigeonSt from Detroit on 2003-09-21 09:51 [#00871957]
Points: 1780 Status: Regular



online petitions don't work

example a: the HAB petition that goes around every now and
then


 

offline AK47 on 2003-09-21 09:53 [#00871960]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker



the wall at Qalqiliya


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2003-09-21 09:54 [#00871963]
Points: 10031 Status: Regular | Followup to PigeonSt: #00871957



i agree. no one pays any attention to online petitions,
despite their good intentions


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-21 09:54 [#00871964]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker



Where is the petition I can sign to stop Palestinians from
strapping dynamite to their infants and lobbing them at
Israelis?


 

offline AK47 on 2003-09-21 10:06 [#00871976]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #00871964



US/Israeli propoganda... have you heard about the pregant
Palestine women stopped at checkpoints and losing their
babies on the side of the road. Thats apartheid.

Their organisation has been created mutally by both Israelis
and Palestineans. This is not about tit for tat or racism
this is about peace.

Online petitions and the like do work as long people wish to
involved, it lets the policitians know about world wide
public opinion, so they have work harder to lie to you :D
Check out the people from all over the world who signed it.
Its the media that love to pull the wool over your eyes,
Fleetmouse have you heard of Rachel Corrie, do a search...
Bush owes her family an applogy for being crushed by an
Israeli tank who ran over her body 3 times whilst trying to
save a Palestinenean house from being bulldozed. Incidently
the Iraq war started in the same week.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-21 10:14 [#00871986]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to AK47: #00871976



required reading


 

offline AK47 on 2003-09-21 10:26 [#00871996]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker



So only a fraction of them do, extremists like Hamas and
Islamic Jihad who dont represent the mainstream Palestinean
hopes and dreams of living in peace. I think you stopped
spouting state funded propoganda if Sharon had his way all
Palestineans will be dead as he intentionally proven ages
ago by masterminding the massacres of in the Palestinenean
refugee camps in Sabra and Shatila. Recently the deputy
prime minister of Israel Ehud Olmert offered to murder
Arafat



 

offline AK47 on 2003-09-21 10:30 [#00872002]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker



Map of Israels Weapons of Mass Destruction

Need I really say more to the only country in the Middle
East whose weapons programs are funded by the US


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-21 10:38 [#00872008]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to AK47: #00871996



Only a fraction? Not mainstram? Have you already mentally
censored the sources of those images and insignias?

- Palestinian National Authority's website
- Palestinian National Authority’s Ministry of
Industry
- Palestinian Liberation Organization
- Yasser Arafat’s uniform
- the official Palestinian Authority’s education
system schoolbooks


 

offline nacmat on 2003-09-21 10:38 [#00872009]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker



even though if it doesnt work... thanks for opening our eyes
a little


 

offline nacmat on 2003-09-21 10:47 [#00872019]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker



I signed



 

offline big from lsg on 2003-09-21 12:43 [#00872146]
Points: 23729 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



i'm not gonna sign: the situation is to far out of controll,
it's a useless fight: if it has come down to building an
actuall fucking wall, the end has begun, or something, i get
sick of this


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-09-21 17:22 [#00872522]
Points: 24805 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



I ain't gonna sign shit to do with this. What have any of
them losers ever done for me? Nothing...I don't see them
signing no partitions to make me a millionaire. Let them
fight their own battles.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-21 17:25 [#00872531]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker



i signed it. the israelis and palestinians are both guilty
but they also both have innocents that suffer. the UN needs
to invest more time, effort, and money into this situation.


 

offline joakimlinden from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-09-21 17:44 [#00872580]
Points: 462 Status: Regular



I'm to tired to go into battle mode but I can say that I
signed the list. Palestinians have been brutally opressed
since the 60's (!!!) and to act surprised when they start to
take desparate actions against the occupation country after
countless failed attempts in the UN to make Israel follow
international law is straight out insane.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-09-21 17:53 [#00872591]
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And a couple of nerds signing their names over the internet
is suddenly going to resolve 4 decades of trouble.


 

offline S M Pennyworth from East Timor on 2003-09-21 17:57 [#00872602]
Points: 2196 Status: Lurker



gaaaaaaah
its a waste of energy


 

offline nacmat on 2003-09-22 03:43 [#00873038]
Points: 31271 Status: Lurker | Followup to ecnadniarb: #00872591



too much fear and shadows around you


 

offline AK47 on 2003-09-23 11:34 [#00874906]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #00872008



Still propoganda, why by steadily driving the Palestineans
off their "ancestoral" land since end of the First World
War, its systemic colonisation and that is ok with you.
Wouldnt you want your land back or at least compensation.
After the land has been taken by force and Israel is in
violation of many UN resolutions not unlike its counterpart
the US who vetoed most of them. Take a look at the map and
you will find chemical etc weapons. There is something wrong
with this picture.

Licensed to KILL



 

offline AK47 on 2003-09-23 11:47 [#00874920]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to ecnadniarb: #00872522



Does the world owe you a living? Why should anyone do
anything for you. Some people are just indifferent to the
plight of others, just think if people were indifferent to
Nelson Mandela he would have rotted in jail and Apartheid
would still be around or the Berlin Wall coming down.

What are the odds lets weigh them up:

Palestineans
Stones, Sucide Bombers

Versus

Israel
Tanks, Bulldozers, WMD's, Helicopters, Planes, only one of
the most powerful arms caches in the world...

Can you afford to be indifferent when its clear that these
are unfair odds along with the mass media misreporting every
aspect of it. I found signatures from the Irish Protest
Movement on there and I would not call them nerds, and the
people I knew personally that protest for Palestine every
Saturday morning rain, hail shine, signed it.

Thanks to Nacmat, you rule :)



 

offline AK47 on 2003-09-23 12:50 [#00874993]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker



Try this little quiz on Israel

Also thanks to titsworth - I agree this bloodshed cant go on



 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-09-23 12:56 [#00874997]
Points: 4904 Status: Regular



The quiz doesn't appear to be working


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-09-23 12:57 [#00875000]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to AK47: #00871996



only a LARGE fraction.... the majority of palestinians
spuport suicide bombers


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-09-23 12:59 [#00875004]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to AK47: #00874920



"the mass media misreporting every
aspect of it."

yeah, CNN and tons of other outlets call palestinian
terrorists "activists"...... thats about the understatement
of hte year


 

offline AK47 on 2003-09-23 13:07 [#00875013]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMinal: #00875000



And what about Israels miltary intervention? That must be
ok, as you havent mentioned that? Bulldozing people's
houses, the wall in question is separting a village from its
land, and that is okay with most Israelis, is it not? Should
the Palestineans be more hosptiable to the thieves stealing
their land?


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-09-23 13:15 [#00875031]
Points: 3476 Status: Regular | Followup to AK47: #00875013



i never said that...... and no i dont know how most israelis
feel about it

maybe everyone should be more hostitable to everyone

btw you might want to find out the definition of
"colonisation"


 

offline AK47 on 2003-09-23 13:18 [#00875036]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to xlr: #00874997



Sorry I cant seem to find it on another page, it might have
been removed.


 

offline AK47 on 2003-09-23 13:23 [#00875040]
Points: 386 Status: Lurker | Followup to AMinal: #00875031



I am well aware of it, as maybe the word I was looking for
was "occupation"

i have been drinking on the job tonight :), a couple of
chemical heniken weapons with a band New Pacific Music
Ensemble (Cook Island music fused with jazz)

Not as cool as a multimedia but a short history for
you


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-23 14:31 [#00875134]
Points: 14550 Status: Lurker | Followup to AK47: #00874920



public indifference is the only reason mumia has yet to be
given a fair trial and why george w. bush got away with the
massive slaughter of hundreds of thousands of iraqis in the
name of the oil industry and family revenge


 


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