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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-20 17:47 [#00871490]
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Another geat thread.
What is your opinion of recording with your computer using software vs. recording into a mixer/recorder?
Also, does anyone have experience using an Audigy 2 Platinum as a recording input?
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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-20 19:51 [#00871617]
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Anybody wanna help a poor boy out here?
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-09-20 22:01 [#00871653]
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I happen to have a Audigy 2 Platinum and i've used it for recording vinyls and some keyboard stuff.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-09-20 22:18 [#00871660]
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Oh, and to answer a possible question: It is a very nice soundcard. Well worth the money in my opinion. Especially if you get some 5.1 or 6.1 surround speakers. Makes making music sound a lot better. Plsu that 24-bit 96khz or whatever recording is nice. The remote is pretty worthless unless you use there software. And the midi ports are usefull to.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-20 22:22 [#00871662]
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I know some ppl who get on fine with 100% software setups - But to be honest, I don't like computers - I just can't get the results I'm after mixing in Logic - And I don't like working with softsynths either.
The only thing on the computer I like working with is Renoise.
But that's just me! I lurrvvee real synths - I get at least 50% of my ideas and inspiration from my synths - Love the organic/evolving sound of analog synths.
As soon as I see menus and have to click a mouse I just don't feel musical any more.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-20 22:23 [#00871663]
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Slaveing over a big ol' mixing desk and messing with sliders and dials is what attracted me to producing music in the first place.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-09-20 22:36 [#00871671]
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Right on!
Heaps better than staring at a monitor clicking with a mouse, etc. etc.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-09-20 22:41 [#00871674]
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It's all the same shit, just different piles.
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-20 22:41 [#00871676]
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Hardware seems to sound more pleasing to the ear & hardware effects generally sound alot better than the weak software imitations imo...........Then again, I also feel that monkeys sound better than caterpillars & geese fly straighter than 9 out of ten lymph glands smell in most cases
M-Audio make very high quality sound cards for a very resonable price, my delta is top notch for recording although my behringer mixing desk is kinda crappy (I get alot of interference from it, although that could be due to many things) but hey, what can you expect for £40?
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-20 22:44 [#00871680]
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atgmartin,
what gear do you have so far?
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-09-20 22:53 [#00871689]
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M audio are bastards Ill never buy anything from those nazis ever again.
They dont support anything its fucking shit. Man I really hate them a lot.
Soft and Hard are both on the same team I would say. Why would I use any of my FM synths when I can just use FM7? I have no idea, but I still do.
As long as the job gets done right I would say.
I record to tape sometimes, I record to PC sometimes. I need both or I feel like shit lol
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-20 23:09 [#00871698]
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"M audio are bastards Ill never buy anything from those nazis
ever again. They dont support anything its fucking shit. Man I really hate them a lot"
Ha, I feel the same way about Edirol.
"Soft and Hard are both on the same team I would say"
I concur! For me hardware is best for the creative process, a sexy bit of gear can really give your inspiration level a boost. Software is great for aranging, sequencing & editing due to the large display & extra spicy features.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-20 23:12 [#00871701]
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i used to make a big stink about this kind of thing cause i always used hardware only (w/o midi). but my fourtrack broke, and lately i've been using soundedit pro 16 on mac os9. it's pretty dandy
so whatever leave me alone
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-09-20 23:32 [#00871711]
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if i had a decent computer, id use it for extra midi shitz and perhaps for synth effects..
but yeah, i can do almost everything important on my 10 year old rolands :)
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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-20 23:37 [#00871716]
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Well I have a Novation KS-4, decent VA synth. But I mainly want to record guitars and drum machine, using the synth for bass and pads. How plausible is it to get good results in the software recording domain? I have the idea that I can mic my amps, or plug straight in, to an Audigy 2 plat pro, mix and record with Cubase SX. But I'm retarded at this kind of shit.
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-20 23:43 [#00871718]
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do you have a pc?
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-09-21 01:34 [#00871745]
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hardware
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-09-21 02:37 [#00871754]
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hardware definately. for example: nothing on your pc can make such cool sounds like a korg or a real 303.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2003-09-21 03:38 [#00871766]
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oh goodie, another boring discussion. the quality is both equally good. the only thing that is different is the sound and warmth of the music that will be different.
but 99% of the people including me and you won't hear the difference between a track mixed on analogue mixer or mixed digitally. now shut up and go make music.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-09-21 05:06 [#00871799]
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OK REALLY IF YOU WANT TO REACH FULL POTENTIAL WITH SOFTWARE YOU HAVE TO GET HARDWARE.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-09-21 05:10 [#00871800]
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Agreed, the software is only as good as the hardware.
Classic example....a nicely composed MIDI file sounds shit on a 16bit SoundBlaster.
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-21 05:14 [#00871805]
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I would prefer to get an old analouge synth (hardware) than a software rehash.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-09-21 05:18 [#00871808]
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Not really a relevent comparison as MIDI isn't music software.
It depends...stuff like a 303 is always going to sound better with the original hardware. However software sythesis of old analogue sounds is getting to the stage where the majority of people couldn't tell the difference. Digital synths there is no difference at all. Yu just have to make sure you have a good PC with as good a soundcard as you can afford.
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-09-21 05:41 [#00871816]
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Hardware vs. Software... Well nowadays the difference is marginal - it's more inside your head.
Almost all hardware that is produced these days contain software, they are infact digital all the way through in many cases. This makes the difference between PC's and "real" synthesizers minimal in terms of sound, but the physical existence of knobs and sliders might be what triggers your imagination and inspiration - sitting still infront of a monitor rarely sparks my inspiration anymore, but that's the only thing I can afford right now so...
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2003-09-21 09:16 [#00871921]
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for recording guitars and drums and stuff, i would deffinately go with hardware. just use the pc to do the final mastering.
get yourself a good desk, with phantom power. some good mikes, and your away.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-09-21 09:43 [#00871944]
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I like the hands on feeling of making music with a hardware setup. Pushing buttons and muting/unmuting channels on the mixer to check what sounds good together. It's still alot of mouse clicking when doing the actual sequencing, but atleast you don't have to do everything with the mouse.
-P
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-21 09:54 [#00871961]
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Hardware is always a wonderfull experience and I also believe that its much quicker to make a song once you know your hardware. Using two hands to tweak knobs is better than one mouse. However hardware and stuff is expensive and I would only go hardware if you had a very nice computer with Logic audio running on it. Very expensive when you add it up.
Software is the way to go if you dont have the cash... you can just download all your music making programs.
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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-21 13:09 [#00872162]
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Yes, I have a very good PC in terms of processor speed and memory, etc. so that wouldn't limit me.
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