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Dozier
from United States on 2003-09-27 22:21 [#00881166]
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Speakerboxx is good. i think i'll start listening to that more tomorrow. i really like 'intro'...wish it was longer.
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2003-09-27 23:31 [#00881182]
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HTTT
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-27 23:39 [#00881187]
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do you feel special saying that?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2003-09-27 23:44 [#00881189]
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i hope it'll be the new jega album (if he manages to release it this year) mm..
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-28 00:04 [#00881196]
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condescending...
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-28 06:55 [#00881402]
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Favourite album of the year: Wintermute - Widescreen
One of my favourite ambient albums, is this.
Other favourites: Current Ninety Three - Hypnagogue Radiohead - Hail To The Thief Laura Musgrave - Sparking Autechre - Draft 7.30 Skye - Elliptic Aphex Twin - 26 Mixes For Cash
Biggest Disappointment: Blur - Think Tank
I thought this album was going to be shite. And it was a thousand times worse than I was expecting.
Other disappointments: Humanoid - Sessions 84-88 Stakker - Eurotechno
Early FSOL stuff I'd been waiting for for a couple of years. And, the Zeebox tracks on the end of Sessions aside, the rest is a bit dull, really. It's a shame more of the Zeebox tracks weren't on it. There are about 60 all together, and they show how Dougans was, at a young age, easily equal to RDJ in terms of musical genius.
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-28 06:55 [#00881404]
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Album of the year I simply don't get: The OutKast one. *shrugs*
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-28 08:31 [#00881497]
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"do you feel special saying that?"
ummmm, what's the point of that?
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k_maty
on 2003-09-28 08:54 [#00881519]
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I was in Iraq from January till august
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-09-28 10:43 [#00881597]
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ewwww no fucking way
I think pitchforkmedia called this one perfectly.. the dre side needs much work
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-09-28 10:48 [#00881599]
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album of the year:
-venetian snares "chocolate wheelchair album"
worst cover art of the year:
-venetian snares "chocolate wheelchair album"
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-09-28 10:52 [#00881600]
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I agree...I have high expectations of this album after having listened to the samples on planet-mu.com.
Abomination Street and Marty's Tardis are good from what I've heard so far! I'll probably buy this one, unless I dislike the rest :o)
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rez
from here on 2003-09-28 11:00 [#00881604]
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httt and one word extinguisher are this year's best albums
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-28 23:19 [#00882295]
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haha, really? because to me it just seems like pitchfork are doing their obligatory "shoot down whatever music is really good and genuine" routine. tell me what parts of dre's disc you would improve and be specific.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-09-28 23:35 [#00882296]
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they are doing that.. but they nailed it on this one
I hate the fact that rap artists feel obligated to bookend their albums with 'Tros those being the intro and the outro.. and the middle portion is spinkled liberally with skits and interludes.. that's my speakerboxxx complaint
the first two andre tracks.. I love that he dove right in and went full force lounge act with that.. but midway thru he starts taking the piss out of his own song copping out for two reasons.. - he couldnt come up with anything else .. - he didnt want to lose the hood niggas that as he put it in his final track.. weren't ready for ATLiens..
his drum/n bass drum patterns are too brief.. I rapid variation is key in forming those kinds of patterns (see: spread and the untitled intrumental (my favorite things)
repetition and incompletion plague the beats and the lyrics
the end of pink & blue goes on looping that string section part.. but it's only like 2 bars.. it's as if to say hey look! those are real violins! and I wrote that! here listen again! but it's too short to amount to even a measured accomplishment
I disagree with the thing pitchfork said regarding the fact that big boi's absence hurt the love below. he can do fine without him.. I dont like his style anyway.. the love below needed more work
unfinished verses.. falling back on the chorus too much
dracula's wedding .. although one of my favorites is "quite literal" (pitchfork) and it shouldn't be
his lyrics need work (like pharell williams he makes great music and his influences are clear.. but his lyrics are just far enough under par in certain instances that it's a bit frustrating.. it's like they need a second opinion to push them into the 'great' level)
none of this really applies to "hey ya!"
I like andre's skits.. I thought they were funny.. but they're unneccessary.. I understand stankonia is like 74059% skit and I've avoided buying it in large part for this reason
I'll come with a more lucid and thorough
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-09-28 23:35 [#00882297]
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and more thought-out description of what I felt were this albums shortcomings later.. .. I do like it though and I recommend it
now xltronic.. I know they're black, but don't worry.. one of them likes squarepusher! (and it shows!) and one track sounds like caustic window
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kidding
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-09-28 23:39 [#00882298]
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From what I've heard thus far, Ulrich Schnauss's 'A Strangely Isolated Place' tops the list for me...although there's still 2 months to go.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-29 00:48 [#00882329]
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ok, you make some good points, i'll have to reply in detail next time i listen to his album.
as for intros and outros, i agree they're rarely necessary or add much. though some of outkast's past intro tracks have been really lovely. i'm glad dre's disc doesn't do that. there's a short song at the start and a long song at the end. outkast tend not to do outro tracks anyway.
i can't really see what you mean about the midway through thing w/ dre, i think he was himself through and through on this disc. didn't hear any pandering and it's kind of weird to even consider this huge change of an album as pandering to anyone in the hood. as i said, i'll reply again after i listen some more.
you're wrong about the outkast skit ratio thing.. what a weird thing to say. they do have skits but they're well done and only make up i'd say 10% of each album. they fit in but they don't NEED to be in. maybe 1 or 2 per album really add something special.
andre's one of my favorite lyricists of any genre but since he stuck to one topic on this album basically--love--and is sangin' instead of rappin', he's not up to his usual quality of lyrics. i think this is a learning curve for him maybe. so i can see what you're saying. he's definitely doing better than pharrell but not as good as mos def.
next muthafucka to say HTTT feels my metal!
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-29 18:23 [#00883238]
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do you like any hip-hop? you don't have to, i'm just curious because 1) hip-hop is quite often as exciting and creative as electronica, and 2) FSOL are obviously very influenced by it, even sampling people like run-dmc in their music. not to say that everyone should instantly agree with their favorite artists' favorite artists, i know i don't always.
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-09-29 18:41 [#00883261]
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"album of the year"
buck 65 - talkin honky blues
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-09-29 18:56 [#00883269]
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my album of the year is
ulrich schnauss - a strangely isolated place
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-09-29 19:00 [#00883273]
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i like how andre discovered vintage clothing after dating ericka baduuuuuu
as did common
hip hop is a flip flop
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-09-30 23:38 [#00884771]
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dunno if i'd call it my album of the year just yet, but Speakerboxxx was definately making me MOVE! right now of the two disc's Big Boi's is definately my fav, and while i like several songs off Andre 3000's The Love Below, it just doesn't resonate with me like Speakerboxx. maybe it's because he's gone off in such a new direction it's gonna take a while for me to develope a taste for it.
i didn't see a wrong move on either disc tho.....it was seemless!
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777
from Oulu (Finland) on 2003-10-04 17:57 [#00889499]
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Radiohead: Hail To The Thief Martina Topley-Bird: Quixotic Massive Attack: 100th Window The Matthew Herbert Big Band: Goodbye Swingtime Tom McRae: Just Like Blood Xiu Xiu: A Promise The Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra & Tra-la-la Band With Choir: "This Is Our Punk-Rock," Thee Rusted Satellites Gather + Sing
Moloko: Statues The White Stripes: Elephant Jonny Greenwood: Bodysong Desert Sessions 9 & 10
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EugeneII
on 2003-10-05 04:15 [#00889687]
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the sunburned hand of the man - headdress xiu xiu - a promise httt draft 7.30 tim hecker - radio amor
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-05 04:54 [#00889725]
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Outkast man, what a load of fucking shit, purposefully terrible music that sells shitloads for no reason, they're on my tv all the time they're obviously pants fuck off and die
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-10-05 04:57 [#00889727]
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Bought it yesterday after having heard Hey Ya on mtv2. What a great song!
I'm slightly dissapointed by the album though. Speakerboxxx i basically don't like at all (only listened to it once, will probably not listen to it again). The Love Below is nice... but none of the other songs seem as good as Hey Ya to me. Maybe it needs more time... but even so... all the other songs are just completely different from Hey Ya :-p Quite a misleading single if you ask me.
All the interludes are very annoying. Two of them made me laugh ('god' and 'good day good sir', but Ã'll probably be bored of them pretty soon). Not a bad album, but also not what i was expecting at all!
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-10-05 05:05 [#00889730]
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Interludes and Skits need taking off rap albums forever.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-05 19:29 [#00890672]
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wow, you're the epitome of someone who just doesn't get it.
this album keeps getting better and better and better and better and better and better and better and better and better and better and better and...
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-06 02:51 [#00890978]
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There is nothing to get. I'm all for people listening to whatever they want but now and again something comes along which beggars belief, and this is it.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-10-06 02:52 [#00890979]
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heh
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berestez
from Finland on 2003-10-06 03:06 [#00890999]
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Electronic: Chris Clark - Empty the bones of you Rock: A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth Step ..
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Dozier
from United States on 2003-10-06 06:15 [#00891212]
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i've really played out the love below, and now speakerboxx is starting to take hold. the whole damn release is just nice.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-07 01:40 [#00892399]
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what do you think of "reset"? i think it's one of the darkest and most beautiful songs i've ever heard. cee-lo's verse gives me chills. it's not just the lyrics, which are simple but effective, but the way they're said. everytime i hear it i come close to tears.
big boi is an amazing producer. strip away the vocals on his album and it'd be a contender for one of the year's best electronica albums.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-07 01:53 [#00892408]
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that song Hey Ya or whatever it is, is definitely one of the best singles I've heard in a long time... if the whole album was similar to that in quality and stuff I'd seriously consider buying it sometime... and I ain't even a rap fan really... but damn, that song is catchy, and sweet ass! :)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-07 04:25 [#00892523]
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cliché: httt
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-10-07 04:59 [#00892538]
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wow, morton you think httt is better than draft, 26 mixes or chris clark..... ?
my best album is definately Ulrich Schnauss: A strangely isolated place.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-10-07 05:17 [#00892544]
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100th window keeps sounding better all the time,
it's actually the only music I can listen to when I'm hungover
also, I thought gescom - iss:sa was more impressive than draft sevenpointthree
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-10-09 00:25 [#00895399]
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i'm hearing Speakerboxx for the first time... and parts of it are fuckin' wicked... mad g-funk styles...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-09 08:19 [#00895828]
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speakerboxxx may prove to be the superior album. it's a close call. both are 5 star albums but depending on what you like about outkast you may like speakerboxxx more. it keeps it crunk.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-10-09 09:39 [#00895914]
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"that song Hey Ya or whatever it is, is definitely one of the best singles I've heard in a long time..."
I agree! Definitly the best single of the year.
"if the whole album was similar to that"
Well it's not. I'd almost go as far as to say it doesn't really fit with the rest of the album. Maybe it's just me, but that song sounds completely different from all the other tracks on The Love Below.
But please don't let that stop you from giving the album a good listen :-) It's really excellent! Just a long list of fantastic songs, unlike anything i've ever heard before. Very happy and uplifting. Until the last couple of songs, where the sound suddenly changes into something much more jazzy and cool. One of those last tracks (#17... it appears to be an untitled one?!) could have easily been written by the squarepusher.
And despite what i said earlier in this thread, the speakerboxxx-disc is also growing on me somewhat. The tracks ghettomusick & reset are really nice. And Flip Flop Rock is just amazing! Out of the entire 2CD-set, that one is probably my second favourite song, right behind Hey Ya.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-09 10:01 [#00895939]
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"hey ya!" doesn't sound like the love below, but then again a LOT of the songs on andre's album don't sound like anything else on it. so if you like variety you'll enjoy the album.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-10-09 10:13 [#00895955]
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You are all so wrong. The best album of the year is 'Sumday' by Grandaddy.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-09 10:14 [#00895956]
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You are all on bad drugs.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-09 10:15 [#00895957]
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ok, we get it -- you think the albums you've NEVER HEARD suck. thanks for your input, it really means a lot.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-09 10:18 [#00895961]
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You're all praising this single as the best of the year, it was the most abysmal piece of shite I've ever heard in my life. You think I want to hear the album? Everything I've ever heard by them is terrible. I repeat. Bad drugs.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-10-09 10:18 [#00895962]
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the best track ive heard this year is
linsifarne featuring gazza - fog on the tyne (jody morris definately did it remix)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-09 10:19 [#00895966]
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:D
I hope he did do it, the short cunt's useless
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2003-10-09 10:44 [#00896002]
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it can't be album of the year because it's two albums.
my vote is for Hail to the Thief or Sumday
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-10-09 11:09 [#00896019]
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sumday was pretty average, never on the same level as software slump. sadly another group that seems to have run short of ideas or decided to just play it safe with more of the same.
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