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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-09-17 17:08 [#00867798]
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this might be too obscure, but especially if you live in the united states you might want to check out this label (based in new york). i just heard two albums,
apikal blend by sogar, which is a largely improvised blend of amorphous static and warm hums which coalesce into intriguing melodic relationships and occasional rhythms. unique and excellent, takes the predictability of idm out but leaves the detail, texture and melody.
frame by shuttle358 is a rerelease from a few years ago, it's very low key minimal techno (no kick drums at all) with subtle melodies. imagine pole without the persistent dub/hip hop and warmer, emotionally resonant melodies, a dash of saw II and a few crackly, glitchy sounds. excellent late night listening.
12k records
it's hard to get a feel for these records based on the sound samples though. the music needs time to expand.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-09-19 15:05 [#00870441]
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one small bump for these excellent underappreciated releases...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-02-20 20:35 [#01082855]
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i've been listening to a lot of Taylor Deupree stuff lately... i'm really enjoying "post-piano", the album he did with Kenneth Kirschner... very delicate, haunting stuff... i've heard a bit of Christopher Willits (some of which was really beautiful), and a bit of Sogar's Apikal.Blend (but hasn't sunk in yet, i've only given it one listen)...
this label seems really interesting, and doesn't seem to get mentioned much here... who else has heard much 12K? what artists should i make a point of checking out? which Deupree albums are the best? and what about their sister label, L-ne?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-02-20 21:00 [#01082868]
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From what you have written sogar sounds like it could be right up my alley! I will look into this :)
shuttle358.... hmm i had something by this gentleman but i forgot what it was. I will tell you i liked it as i recall! :)
Thanks for the tip zebra!
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-02-20 21:17 [#01082873]
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for those interested, the "post-piano" album is not that far afield from stuff by Murcof, Tim Hecker, Twine, or Alva.Noto and Ryuchi Sakamoto's "Vrioon"...
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-02-21 11:17 [#01083395]
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since this thread has seen the light of day i'll add that sogar's first album "basal" is as good or better than "apikal blend." his album "stengel" on the french label list is also excellent.
the only album i have by fennesz is "endless summer," but it's a good point of reference for sogar (though sogar lacks the overt romanticism of that album and the guitar input is more subtle (if sogar's even using a guitar at all, it's hard to tell for sure)).
l-ne seems to be more minimal, i haven't heard any of those releases. the only 12k releases i've heard are sogar, shuttle358 and some of the web-based limited edition mp3 releases (of which only sogar's appealed to me).
i'll definitely be seeking out more shuttle358, "frame" is still the only release i've heard.
here's a good reference for reviews of experimental music on 12k and other labels:
twentyfive
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-02-21 13:20 [#01083507]
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thanks dude... it's always good to find more webzines for electronic... these days i'm finding stylusmagazine.com really interesting... it's actually where i first heard about sogar...
i've heard clips from L-ne at the record store i go to... and yeah it was like minimal stretched out single sine tones for the most part... maybe if i took the time to get into it, it would be interesting... but i'm already busy with shit like that from the Hafler Trio, and Phill Niblock... so i'm not sure if i'll be checkin' much of that out any time soon... but yeah if you haven't heard Christopher Willits, you should... really interesting stuff... kind of a cross between Oval and Fennesz, only the guitar playing is pretty nimble jazzy type stuff instead of ambient washes...
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-02-22 09:49 [#01084199]
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the guy who maintains the hauntedink/twentyfive page also writes for stylus magazine.
thanks for the recommendations, deadeight.
vp, i'd be interested in hearing your reactions to sogar if you get a chance to hear it.
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mashnote
from mol (Belgium) on 2004-02-22 11:03 [#01084261]
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i downloaded sogar thnx to the dude who recommended it to me in another thread. great stuff.
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mashnote
from mol (Belgium) on 2004-02-22 11:04 [#01084262]
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oh, and maybe check out Twine..not exactly the same..but also atmospheric with a guitar here and there etc etc.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-02-22 14:00 [#01084467]
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Twine is very, very nice...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-04-18 17:11 [#01149129]
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If you like spacey abstract ambient you should really really really check out Kenneth Kirschner and Taylor Deupree's "Post-Piano"... it takes a few listens, but after a while it sounds really gorgeous, in a restrained, creepy sort of way...
allmusic stylus
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