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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-16 10:33 [#00865332]
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Personally this is the best , most amazing , greatest , awesome music-tank to create everything what you want.
Problem - if i dont have an bank account , or credit card , how to get refill's cd's ????
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-09-16 10:38 [#00865343]
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I want it so bad....
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-16 10:39 [#00865346]
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what do you want ? refills or whole reason ?
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blrr
from the block on 2003-09-16 10:49 [#00865371]
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i think Reason is predominantly for german anoraked trance geeks.
I use redrum. thats it.
Subtractor sounds like a washing machine.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-16 10:50 [#00865377]
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yeah, but when you compile subtractor withe scream4 effect - it sounds !!!! and also Malstorm is good , too
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blrr
from the block on 2003-09-16 10:51 [#00865380]
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right.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-09-16 10:52 [#00865385]
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I only use Reason to make drum samples. Looks like too much fiddling about to me. And the sound design aspect is limited. But it's an excellent program and the preset sounds are great.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-16 10:58 [#00865397]
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to be honest - all my tracks are made only on reason , the only part not from reason are samples -
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-09-16 10:59 [#00865399]
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i use 2.0 now...dont know much about 2.5 though it sounds basically the same. i like it for drums just the way its set up but i dont like how its so limited to premade drum kits. maybe there's a way around that i dont know.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-16 11:02 [#00865408]
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its not limited - you can use Recycle to change DrRex drums , and you can change almost everything on redrum pattern - soma part on redrum , some on line in the bottom of screen
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Skeptopotamus
from Home (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-16 11:26 [#00865470]
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I find Reason to be counterproductive. It may have a lovely fancy dazzling interface but it ultimatly just gets in the damn way, and doesn't provide enough methods of making (and breaking) sounds to fuel my creativity. Moan moan moan etc, kudos if you can get it to make the music you want though, that's all that really matters in the end.
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blrr
from the block on 2003-09-16 11:29 [#00865479]
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its wank.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-16 11:36 [#00865494]
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its funny coz i always thought that the more creativity you have inside - the less you need to show it ....
...nothing personal , maybe im not so creative like you whats the point of buying hole cake when you want to eat just a slice ?
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Skeptopotamus
from Home (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-16 11:50 [#00865534]
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Ye'what?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-09-16 11:52 [#00865543]
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It's good for looped based stuff. It's no good for drill stuff but if you aren't into that and you can do without many effects in your tracks then it is a good package.
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exillon
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-16 12:24 [#00865576]
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I like how almost everything is automatable, although it can get quite messy
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-16 12:24 [#00865577]
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I like it. Still not given it a full run through though.
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-09-16 12:39 [#00865591]
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ecnadniarb: drill stuff is all i make with it. everysong i've made with it has absolutely no loops
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cx
from Norway on 2003-09-16 13:23 [#00865629]
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Yeah I mean, you don't have to use the redrum interface to make beats, you can click the edit button while having the redrum track ativated, and it functions just like a piano roll.
Personally I've stretched the malstrom and subtractor to it's limits.
I'm aware of all the sounds you can get, but if you really want to get rid of the 'reason sound', you need to start using the samplers.
And since I'm not really worried about that, it just fits me very well right now.
It's so easy, and I totally disagree with another poster that it gets in the way and doesn't fuel creativity, I mean that program has done more for me than any other.
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2003-09-16 13:26 [#00865634]
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nah, project5 is just so much better. vsti support and all.
im using prject5, with fruity as a vsti + all the native instrument vstis.
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neut
from Boise (United States) on 2003-09-16 14:24 [#00865711]
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kool-aid guy says:
reason + live = oh yeah!
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-16 15:14 [#00865796]
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hmmmm
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-09-16 15:51 [#00865864]
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I think that if you have imagination you can do anything you want, i have discovered many interesting things you can do with it.
As i said your imagination is the only limiting factor : )
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-16 15:56 [#00865875]
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i use acid pro mostly because it's a program i fully understand and i don't want to try to learn new software or buy a new computer just yet.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2003-09-16 16:18 [#00865919]
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Reason is alright, although everything made with reason sounds like its made on reason, the drum interface and automation interfaces are ass, and it doesn't have VST support.
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Dael
from the low end (Australia) on 2003-09-16 21:22 [#00866213]
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"although everything made with reason sounds like its made on reason" , Wouldn't that be due to the fact that your letting the software influence the end result too much, not the other way around?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-09-16 21:33 [#00866232]
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I'm not saying you can't make it but it is a lot more tedious and a lot more work than using other packages.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2003-09-16 21:58 [#00866251]
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Perhaps, but most experienced producers I have talked to, including myself (although not as experienced as I would like) seem to agree on the same thing. You can still make amazing stuff with reason (I never said it was a bad program).
Funny. My computer setup is so shit poor, I always thought I was close to bringing it well past its sonic potential. Not that I am amazing or anything like that, but I have a really shitty computer set up.
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Dael
from the low end (Australia) on 2003-09-16 22:24 [#00866290]
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No doubt at all Taxidermist,
I totally agree with you, my experiences have told me that the more you know about the software that your on, the more unique and creative you can be (less likely to run the software at it's default (demolike) settings)
... so maybe it could have something to do with the interface? What does everyone else think too? Do you think that the interface you work with influences song structure, composition or timing of what comes out your speakers?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2003-09-17 00:05 [#00866404]
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I have found that the more intuitive and comfortable an interface is, the more dynamic my music sounds, as far as song structure is concerned. Also, software developers have a tenancy to make shit hot software look shit hot. So a lot of the time if something looks cool, there is a reason for that. A prime example of this is the good folks at native instruments. It looks beautifully set up and futuristic, and it sounds amazing.
It seems to me that reason just has a very polished, yet... I donno. Its hard to describe. A lot of software like reason and fruity loops is designed so that a novice can get near professional sound quality, but its not professional sounding. Its fruity loops and reason sounding. Thats the best way I can describe it.
Just so I don't piss anyone off, one of my main pieces of software is fruityloops, so don't trip. I love it, you just need to master everying elsewhere.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-09-17 00:16 [#00866407]
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I'm not sold on reason. I think it is seriously 5 years too late.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-09-17 00:36 [#00866426]
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Nah, you can't tell a Reason track that easily...it is impossible because if you use Dr.Rex and Malstrom you can pretty much create any sound you want.
The only areas for me that Reason falls down in are that there still aren't enough effects modules and the sequencer could do with a few improvements, on the flip side, even though I don't use it any more, I have never used a more solid music production platform. Reason didn't crash on me once...no matter how much I fiddled with wiring in the back etc. If they could maintain the stability, improve the sequencer a bit and allow VST effect plugins to be used I would go back to it like a shot.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-17 04:50 [#00866796]
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well thats right , but yoiu must remember that many of people here knows something about vst plugins and such - for many reason is reason , fl is fl and they dont need any others plugins - ask on board - i doubt that there will be more than 30-40% of people who really knows about plugins , midi , vst and such....
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-09-17 04:52 [#00866798]
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but yoiu must remember that many of people here doesn't know anything about vst plugins and such - this is what i wanted to say , for fuck sake
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