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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-09-15 22:34 [#00864647]
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10,000 Iraqi civilians lost their lives for what? New Iraqi Army Born In Desert Camp 16/09/2003 07:28 AM Andrew Cawthorne
The first recruits to the fledgling New Iraqi Army have showed off their fighting skills at a desert camp where the US-led occupiers hope to turn out 35,000 soldiers in a year.
An initial batch of 750 soldiers at the Kirkush camp, near the Iranian border northeast of Baghdad, included ex-members of Saddam Hussein's disbanded army and Kurdish Peshmerga rebels who until five months ago had been fighting one another.
"That was Saddam's fault," said Abubaker Mohammad, who fought for 11 years with the Peshmerga. "Now we are one family, Arabs and Kurds together, working for a new army, a new Iraq."
Saddam's vast army, thought to number as many as 400,000, collapsed in the weeks after the US-led invasion of Iraq in March. Some fought and died, most turned and fled.
Washington decided to disband the army and hired a US company, Vinnell, to train a new force from scratch.
The first battalion of 750 in the New Iraqi Army is near to finishing an eight-week initial training course at Kirkush.
Risking retribution from anti-US Iraqi guerrillas who often target "collaborators", 3,000 more would-be soldiers have signed up at three recruitment centres in Baghdad, Basra in the south, and Mosul in the north, U.S. officers said.
"I am not scared. Saddam's people are gone and they will never come back. We in the new army will make sure of that," said recruit Saman Talabani, clasping a gun to his chest.
Senior officers from Saddam's army are excluded from the new army, but two-thirds of the recruits are former soldiers.
Human Rights And Tooth-Brushing
"By this time next year I want 35,000 men in 27 infantry battalions," US Major-General Paul Eaton, the top commander overseeing the new army's formation, told Reuters.
"That would be a great start, then it will be up to the new Iraqi government to see how it wants to build on that. Saddam
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-15 22:38 [#00864653]
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not to spoil the topic since it's an extremely important one which i will devote my full attention to first thing tomorrow, but welcome back flea.. i hope you continue to post about these and other things, we miss your and Red's perspectives.
your friend travis
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-09-15 22:40 [#00864658]
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That big fat meanie head Ceri is without an internet connection right now, you're lucky, Bucky.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-15 22:43 [#00864663]
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yea as soon as Ceri comes back you'll be banz0rZ!
oh jay we're ruining this topic.. i'm sorry flea i didn't see the one LeCoeur started
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-09-15 22:57 [#00864681]
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It's great to see you too TITS :)and me and Red missed you as well:)
And JAY
:p
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-09-15 23:01 [#00864687]
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leave you lot with this. 10,000 CIVIES DIED FOR JACK! (as in shit)
Report on Iraq WMD shelved as no evidence found by US-UK team
London,Sunday, September 14, 2003: (PTI) After failing to get any evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the US and Britain have decided to delay indefinitely the publication of a full report on the controversial issue, media reported today.
Efforts by the Iraq Survey Group, an Anglo-American team of 1,400 scientists, military and intelligence experts, to scour Iraq for the past four months to uncover evidence of chemical or biological weapons have so far ended in failure, 'The Sunday Times' claimed in its report.
It had been expected that a progress report would be published tomorrow but MPs on the British Parliament's security and intelligence committee have been told that even this has been delayed and no new date set.
British defence intelligence sources have confirmed that the final report, which is to be submitted by David Kay, the survey group's leader, to George Tenet, head of the CIA, had been delayed and may not necessarily even be published, the paper said.
In July, Kay suggested on US television that he had seen enough evidence to convince himself that ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had had a programme to produce weapons of mass destruction.
He expected to find "strong" evidence of missile delivery systems and "probably" evidence of biological weapons.
But last week British officials said they believed Kay had been "kite-flying" and that no hard evidence had been uncovered.
The hunt for weapons is seen in London and Washington as a vital step in convincing an increasingly sceptical public that the war was justified.
(PTI)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-09-15 23:04 [#00864689]
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back to topic
i dunno what is gonna happen in Iraq, but unfortunately a lot more INNOCENT people are gonna die...on both sides...WAR is a terrible thing and if peepz think it's over they are wrong, it's gonna last a long .....long .....long.....time =/
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nacmat
on 2003-09-16 02:39 [#00864815]
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yesterday I saw a documentary on how the USA helped Pinochet to get the control by power of Chile killing thousands of people including the elected president Allende.
so they helped a dicatatorship, but now they went to war cos they wouldnt allow a dictatorship in Iraq...why cos saddam was so cruel?? (he was)
well pinochet killed or made dissapear thousands and thousands of people
USA´s goverment is always lying and killing for money
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kalaim badkaama
from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2003-09-16 02:57 [#00864824]
Points: 1331 Status: Lurker | Followup to LeCoeur: #00864689
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find the intruder. money, petrol, hope, terrorism, war, famine.
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joakimlinden
from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-09-16 03:37 [#00864864]
Points: 462 Status: Regular | Followup to nacmat: #00864815
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Allende was one of those courageous few who stood up to the brutal thugs that seem to always fill up the White House.
Same thing happened in Guatemala... When the United Fruits Company was being forced to pay a minor tax for their use of Guatemalan land, and some of their unused land was being turned over to citizens, the U.S. government raised hell.
They plotted a coup and began transmitting corporate radio broadcasts saying to the people that thier government was corrupt, they then saw to it that their hand-picked man got to power. Washington praised the dictator and felt he was a welcome change.
And...to quote something I read: "Guatemala's climb toward civilized egalitarianism plunged into the CIA death-squad crevasse."
Now is a good time to remember Bush's 9/11 speech: "We're the brightest beacon for freedom and democracy in the world"
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