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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-09-15 22:27 [#00864638]
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You know things are fucked up when basic human rights of prisoners start being dished out as privilages
So who is responsible for this Are we talking about some third world dictator here? NO! Hijacking Terrorists? NO! Taliban? NO! Saddam? NO!
It's the good olde land of the free, the moral vanguards and enforcers of democratic values on the rest of the world. You Ass of Aay
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-15 22:33 [#00864645]
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not necessarily saying it's my belief, but something to throw into a potentially interesting conversation: do some prisoners really deserve basic human rights anyways?
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-09-15 22:35 [#00864649]
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tis a sad thing....thanks for pointing that article out. it's funny how it's not been on the news......skirted the so called POW's under the rug so to speak.
*thinks of myself as a citizen of the world more than any one country*
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-09-15 22:39 [#00864656]
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These "viscious, worst of the worst nasty terrorists" have included many old decrepit old villagers in their 70's rounded up to boost numbers and not to mention 13 years old kids. Not quite the Hannibal Lecter now were they? And all that fucker lacks is a view.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-15 22:40 [#00864660]
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certainly not those kinds of peoples. i guess this was a bad place to play that card, since these people really don't deserve to be treated like that. *shrugs*
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-09-15 22:44 [#00864665]
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did you notice this line
' where the 660 suspected al Qaeda and Taliban prisoners are held. '
these men have had NO TRAIL, and are unjustly held.....it's really not right....it's like them locking me or you up for 'suspected' something or other and not scheduling a trial....=/
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-15 22:48 [#00864672]
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well. really, that's just war, though. it's happened before (i think) and i'm not surprised it's happened again. it fucks innocent people. *shrugs*
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-09-15 22:50 [#00864673]
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What ever happened to Taliban? Were any of their deeds/atrocities in Afghanistan any worse than this?
But bear in mind the constant blurring of truths that has occured. Taliban was the Afghan GOVT. AL QAEDA is the Terrorist Organization, created and funded by CIA.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-09-15 22:54 [#00864677]
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That's the firghtening thing Le Coeur. It could be you and me. One of the kids that ended up in Camp XRay was a British born Pakistani student, had just gone back home to Peshawar to do some computer courses cheaply, and he some how, inexplicably ended up in Guantanamo. How or What the hell? is anybody's guess.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-09-15 22:56 [#00864680]
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Slags
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-09-15 23:03 [#00864688]
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slags with flags
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-09-15 23:11 [#00864695]
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i hear ya.....it's blantantly there in the article.......SUSPECTED....and i don't know about you, but i've not seen any trials??
innocent until proven guilty....i think not.
it's the American paranoia with terrorists after 9/11, a lot more died that day....i think the U.S's fairness died, everyone is not to be trusted......i'm sure a lot of immigrants have found it hard to live in the U.S. since then =/
it's terribly sad
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-09-16 00:07 [#00864741]
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flea, do you write to your local paper and such?
if not, you should. I don't agree with all of what you are saying, but a voice like yours was meant to be heard.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-09-16 00:14 [#00864748]
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it's better than the kinda media spoon-fed to the public, that's for sho.
here's Adbusters also if you aren't already aware.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-09-16 00:15 [#00864749]
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hmm
this link might be better
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